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Men Harassed A Woman In A Driverless Waymo, Trapping Her In Traffic (www.404media.co)
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[–] 25 points 2 years ago* (14 children)

They are quite lucky that woman was not my mother because she'd have pulled out her gun and been like, I told you to move, damnit.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    What part of Texas is she from?

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  • [+] -8 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    That's pretty stupid of her.

    Without hesitation, because she is brandishing a weapon, anyone else simply watching the scene from a distance feeling even slightly any emotion is justified to shoot her to death as a form of self defense.

    Never draw a weapon unless the intent is to use it, and in her case she would only intend to use it as a threat not a deterrence, and therefore deserves to die in this imaginary scenario.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Do you have any idea how deranged this sounds to the rest of the world

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Do you think it's normal to see a civilian draw a weapon and point it to another one? First thing I would think is that she's gonna kill them, but I'm not American.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    Sure, but that doesn't necessarily present a danger to you, and if it's clear that she's shooting as self-defense (and I think two young men accosting an elderly woman while physically preventing the car from moving qualifies), there's no reason for you to feel threatened.

    If we put it in a non-gun context, let's say grandma pulls out a knife to defend herself from these men, and then someone sees that and immediately pulls a knife of their own and engages. Why would you do that? It's incredibly unlikely that grandma is going on a killing spree or anything, she just wants to defend herself from these aggressive individuals.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    anyone else simply watching the scene from a distance feeling even slightly any emotion is justified to shoot her to death as a form of self defense

    That really depends on your area and what witnesses exist to corroborate your testimony. You can't just "say" you felt endangered just because a gun was drawn, it needs to pass the "reasonable person" standard (i.e. would a theoretical "reasonable person" feel threatened in this scenario?). I'm guessing an elderly woman pointing a firearm at an individual who is clearly harassing her doesn't present a danger to a reasonable person who isn't in the line of fire.

    That said, if the elderly woman appears jumpy or something, maybe there's a case. But it's not an open-and-shut case like shooting someone who is taking hostages or something.

    Source: am American in gun-friendly state who reads news articles about justified and unjustified shooting cases.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Wait so the people that are justified to shoot her to death, would I be justified to shoot them since they're pulling weapons too? Is it then open season on me

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago

    I'm sorry but doing creepy shit like stopping the car a stranger is in to freak them out is what actually gets you shot in America. Th3se two are lucky this woman wasn't a red blooded american.

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