▲ 517 ▼ [image] Since many people seem to believe you can't tow with cars, here's roughly what dutch people end up doing on vacation. (feddit.de) submitted 3 years ago* by kugel7c@feddit.de to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world 221 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago (5 children) Dutch people must not have many steep hills. permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Screeslope@lemmy.world 30 points 3 years ago You wouldn't believe it, but they routinely haul these over major alpine passes. Works well on climbs, but sharp corners and switchbacks require careful handling, causing everyone else a bit of grief. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nathandee@lemmy.world 17 points 3 years ago The don't.. but the neighboring countries do. That's where this caravan is going permalink fedilink source parent [–] bleuthoot@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Don't worry, we'll even tow them to and trough Norway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rayaar@infosec.pub -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes, going 50 km/h on a 80 km/h road with 300 cars behind them. 😄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SonnyVabitch@lemmy.world -18 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's about half a trainload of people in all those cars. Sidenote: trains very rarely get held up by slow moving traffic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Methylman@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Where do you hitch a camper to a train? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chocoladisco@feddit.de 2 points 3 years ago You can also camp without a camper, just carry a tent with you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dimspace@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago or sharp corners permalink fedilink source parent [–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) We certainly do in the UK and I've seen people pulling Caravans up them with their cars. Maybe Europeans are just better drivers than yanks? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Yanks are so accustomed to the idea that "more litres = more torque" that they actually can't imagine the amount of engineering that's gone in to smaller more efficient European and Japanese engines. ≈1hp per cc is pretty standard in modern cars but why invest in all that engineering when you can pour cheap gasoline down the throat of your 5 litre V8? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) The most popular pickup truck in the US is commonly bought with either a 2.7 liter turbo or 3.5 liter turbo v6, I think you're a bit behind the times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) In 2018, the average engine in the UK was 1.61L, in 2022 in the US it is 3.42L (literally over twice the capacity), but yh, it's me that's behind the times. Edit: Imagine getting down voted because someone doesn't like the data. No rebuttle, no counter data, nothing to show my data might be wrong, just burying it because you don't like it lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're the one who pointed put the five liter v8 not me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's called hyperbole. Although I wouldn't say that it's an extreme exaggeration, the sentiment remains. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) And you're still wrong. Most new cars in the US (other than sports cars) are using small turbocharged four cylinders. But keep trying to act like you know anything about cars in the US, it's fun to watch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago You can tell me I'm wrong all you want, I showed recent data for average engine sizes in the UK and the US and all you have bought is conjecture. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Screeslope@lemmy.world 30 points 3 years ago You wouldn't believe it, but they routinely haul these over major alpine passes. Works well on climbs, but sharp corners and switchbacks require careful handling, causing everyone else a bit of grief. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nathandee@lemmy.world 17 points 3 years ago The don't.. but the neighboring countries do. That's where this caravan is going permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bleuthoot@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Don't worry, we'll even tow them to and trough Norway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rayaar@infosec.pub -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes, going 50 km/h on a 80 km/h road with 300 cars behind them. 😄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SonnyVabitch@lemmy.world -18 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's about half a trainload of people in all those cars. Sidenote: trains very rarely get held up by slow moving traffic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Methylman@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Where do you hitch a camper to a train? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chocoladisco@feddit.de 2 points 3 years ago You can also camp without a camper, just carry a tent with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rayaar@infosec.pub -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes, going 50 km/h on a 80 km/h road with 300 cars behind them. 😄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SonnyVabitch@lemmy.world -18 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's about half a trainload of people in all those cars. Sidenote: trains very rarely get held up by slow moving traffic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Methylman@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Where do you hitch a camper to a train? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chocoladisco@feddit.de 2 points 3 years ago You can also camp without a camper, just carry a tent with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SonnyVabitch@lemmy.world -18 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's about half a trainload of people in all those cars. Sidenote: trains very rarely get held up by slow moving traffic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Methylman@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Where do you hitch a camper to a train? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chocoladisco@feddit.de 2 points 3 years ago You can also camp without a camper, just carry a tent with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Methylman@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Where do you hitch a camper to a train? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chocoladisco@feddit.de 2 points 3 years ago You can also camp without a camper, just carry a tent with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chocoladisco@feddit.de 2 points 3 years ago You can also camp without a camper, just carry a tent with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) We certainly do in the UK and I've seen people pulling Caravans up them with their cars. Maybe Europeans are just better drivers than yanks? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Yanks are so accustomed to the idea that "more litres = more torque" that they actually can't imagine the amount of engineering that's gone in to smaller more efficient European and Japanese engines. ≈1hp per cc is pretty standard in modern cars but why invest in all that engineering when you can pour cheap gasoline down the throat of your 5 litre V8? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) The most popular pickup truck in the US is commonly bought with either a 2.7 liter turbo or 3.5 liter turbo v6, I think you're a bit behind the times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) In 2018, the average engine in the UK was 1.61L, in 2022 in the US it is 3.42L (literally over twice the capacity), but yh, it's me that's behind the times. Edit: Imagine getting down voted because someone doesn't like the data. No rebuttle, no counter data, nothing to show my data might be wrong, just burying it because you don't like it lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're the one who pointed put the five liter v8 not me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's called hyperbole. Although I wouldn't say that it's an extreme exaggeration, the sentiment remains. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) And you're still wrong. Most new cars in the US (other than sports cars) are using small turbocharged four cylinders. But keep trying to act like you know anything about cars in the US, it's fun to watch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago You can tell me I'm wrong all you want, I showed recent data for average engine sizes in the UK and the US and all you have bought is conjecture. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Yanks are so accustomed to the idea that "more litres = more torque" that they actually can't imagine the amount of engineering that's gone in to smaller more efficient European and Japanese engines. ≈1hp per cc is pretty standard in modern cars but why invest in all that engineering when you can pour cheap gasoline down the throat of your 5 litre V8? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) The most popular pickup truck in the US is commonly bought with either a 2.7 liter turbo or 3.5 liter turbo v6, I think you're a bit behind the times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) In 2018, the average engine in the UK was 1.61L, in 2022 in the US it is 3.42L (literally over twice the capacity), but yh, it's me that's behind the times. Edit: Imagine getting down voted because someone doesn't like the data. No rebuttle, no counter data, nothing to show my data might be wrong, just burying it because you don't like it lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're the one who pointed put the five liter v8 not me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's called hyperbole. Although I wouldn't say that it's an extreme exaggeration, the sentiment remains. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) And you're still wrong. Most new cars in the US (other than sports cars) are using small turbocharged four cylinders. But keep trying to act like you know anything about cars in the US, it's fun to watch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago You can tell me I'm wrong all you want, I showed recent data for average engine sizes in the UK and the US and all you have bought is conjecture. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) The most popular pickup truck in the US is commonly bought with either a 2.7 liter turbo or 3.5 liter turbo v6, I think you're a bit behind the times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) In 2018, the average engine in the UK was 1.61L, in 2022 in the US it is 3.42L (literally over twice the capacity), but yh, it's me that's behind the times. Edit: Imagine getting down voted because someone doesn't like the data. No rebuttle, no counter data, nothing to show my data might be wrong, just burying it because you don't like it lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're the one who pointed put the five liter v8 not me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's called hyperbole. Although I wouldn't say that it's an extreme exaggeration, the sentiment remains. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) And you're still wrong. Most new cars in the US (other than sports cars) are using small turbocharged four cylinders. But keep trying to act like you know anything about cars in the US, it's fun to watch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago You can tell me I'm wrong all you want, I showed recent data for average engine sizes in the UK and the US and all you have bought is conjecture. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 13esq@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) In 2018, the average engine in the UK was 1.61L, in 2022 in the US it is 3.42L (literally over twice the capacity), but yh, it's me that's behind the times. Edit: Imagine getting down voted because someone doesn't like the data. No rebuttle, no counter data, nothing to show my data might be wrong, just burying it because you don't like it lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're the one who pointed put the five liter v8 not me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's called hyperbole. Although I wouldn't say that it's an extreme exaggeration, the sentiment remains. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) And you're still wrong. Most new cars in the US (other than sports cars) are using small turbocharged four cylinders. But keep trying to act like you know anything about cars in the US, it's fun to watch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago You can tell me I'm wrong all you want, I showed recent data for average engine sizes in the UK and the US and all you have bought is conjecture. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're the one who pointed put the five liter v8 not me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's called hyperbole. Although I wouldn't say that it's an extreme exaggeration, the sentiment remains. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) And you're still wrong. Most new cars in the US (other than sports cars) are using small turbocharged four cylinders. But keep trying to act like you know anything about cars in the US, it's fun to watch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago You can tell me I'm wrong all you want, I showed recent data for average engine sizes in the UK and the US and all you have bought is conjecture. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 13esq@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's called hyperbole. Although I wouldn't say that it's an extreme exaggeration, the sentiment remains. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) And you're still wrong. Most new cars in the US (other than sports cars) are using small turbocharged four cylinders. But keep trying to act like you know anything about cars in the US, it's fun to watch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago You can tell me I'm wrong all you want, I showed recent data for average engine sizes in the UK and the US and all you have bought is conjecture. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) And you're still wrong. Most new cars in the US (other than sports cars) are using small turbocharged four cylinders. But keep trying to act like you know anything about cars in the US, it's fun to watch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13esq@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago You can tell me I'm wrong all you want, I showed recent data for average engine sizes in the UK and the US and all you have bought is conjecture. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago You can tell me I'm wrong all you want, I showed recent data for average engine sizes in the UK and the US and all you have bought is conjecture. permalink fedilink source parent