▲ 115 ▼ In your opinion, which FOSS software is by many considered "old" or "obsolete", but are in fact, in your opinion, in many ways better than the newer alternatives? (feddit.dk) submitted 3 years ago* by privsecfoss@feddit.dk to c/foss@beehaw.org 227 comments fedilink hide all child comments I'll start: RSS and blogs, news vs. social media XMPP vs. WhatsApp/FB messenger/Snapchat IRC vs. Matrix, Teams, Discord etc. Forums vs. Social media, Reddit, Lemmy(?)
[–] freeman@lemmy.pub 13 points 3 years ago (8 children) I came to say vim...Is the debate still a thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] laird_dave@feddit.de 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) No. There is no debate because vim is the superior editor, period. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SteleTrovilo@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago Vim is the greatest tool ever made for manipulating text as text. Emacs is easier to modify (I <3 Lisp) and is better at handling the semantics of the text it's working with. Also, Emacs has evil-mode now, so the only reason to still prefer Vim is 1. A strange love of vimscript, or 2. A lack of permissions to install Emacs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kotatsuyaki@beehaw.org 3 points 3 years ago (5 children) I used to be on the vim side in the debates, but now that I've also used Emacs - Porque no los dos? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Jaloopa@beehaw.org 9 points 3 years ago (4 children) I've been using vim for years. Because I can't figure out how to exit it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wet_lettuce@beehaw.org 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) zz will also quit it. Zz when vim is sleepy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iuseit@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 3 years ago Every time I see those videos I think to myself. "Man I'm still working on this shitty first brain and now I have to make a 2nd one?" permalink fedilink source parent [–] DrWeevilJammer@lm.rdbt.no 1 point 3 years ago Or x, which does the same thing, with the same number of keystrokes. But the ZZ keys are closer together permalink fedilink source parent [–] freeman@lemmy.pub 2 points 3 years ago :wq! to save and quit or :q! to just quit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] laird_dave@feddit.de 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) No. There is no debate because vim is the superior editor, period. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SteleTrovilo@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago Vim is the greatest tool ever made for manipulating text as text. Emacs is easier to modify (I <3 Lisp) and is better at handling the semantics of the text it's working with. Also, Emacs has evil-mode now, so the only reason to still prefer Vim is 1. A strange love of vimscript, or 2. A lack of permissions to install Emacs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SteleTrovilo@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago Vim is the greatest tool ever made for manipulating text as text. Emacs is easier to modify (I <3 Lisp) and is better at handling the semantics of the text it's working with. Also, Emacs has evil-mode now, so the only reason to still prefer Vim is 1. A strange love of vimscript, or 2. A lack of permissions to install Emacs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kotatsuyaki@beehaw.org 3 points 3 years ago (5 children) I used to be on the vim side in the debates, but now that I've also used Emacs - Porque no los dos? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Jaloopa@beehaw.org 9 points 3 years ago (4 children) I've been using vim for years. Because I can't figure out how to exit it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wet_lettuce@beehaw.org 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) zz will also quit it. Zz when vim is sleepy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iuseit@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 3 years ago Every time I see those videos I think to myself. "Man I'm still working on this shitty first brain and now I have to make a 2nd one?" permalink fedilink source parent [–] DrWeevilJammer@lm.rdbt.no 1 point 3 years ago Or x, which does the same thing, with the same number of keystrokes. But the ZZ keys are closer together permalink fedilink source parent [–] freeman@lemmy.pub 2 points 3 years ago :wq! to save and quit or :q! to just quit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jaloopa@beehaw.org 9 points 3 years ago (4 children) I've been using vim for years. Because I can't figure out how to exit it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wet_lettuce@beehaw.org 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) zz will also quit it. Zz when vim is sleepy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iuseit@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 3 years ago Every time I see those videos I think to myself. "Man I'm still working on this shitty first brain and now I have to make a 2nd one?" permalink fedilink source parent [–] DrWeevilJammer@lm.rdbt.no 1 point 3 years ago Or x, which does the same thing, with the same number of keystrokes. But the ZZ keys are closer together permalink fedilink source parent [–] freeman@lemmy.pub 2 points 3 years ago :wq! to save and quit or :q! to just quit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wet_lettuce@beehaw.org 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) zz will also quit it. Zz when vim is sleepy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iuseit@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 3 years ago Every time I see those videos I think to myself. "Man I'm still working on this shitty first brain and now I have to make a 2nd one?" permalink fedilink source parent [–] DrWeevilJammer@lm.rdbt.no 1 point 3 years ago Or x, which does the same thing, with the same number of keystrokes. But the ZZ keys are closer together permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iuseit@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 3 years ago Every time I see those videos I think to myself. "Man I'm still working on this shitty first brain and now I have to make a 2nd one?" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DrWeevilJammer@lm.rdbt.no 1 point 3 years ago Or x, which does the same thing, with the same number of keystrokes. But the ZZ keys are closer together permalink fedilink source parent
[–] freeman@lemmy.pub 2 points 3 years ago :wq! to save and quit or :q! to just quit permalink fedilink source parent