▲ 115 ▼ In your opinion, which FOSS software is by many considered "old" or "obsolete", but are in fact, in your opinion, in many ways better than the newer alternatives? (feddit.dk) submitted 3 years ago* by privsecfoss@feddit.dk to c/foss@beehaw.org 227 comments fedilink hide all child comments I'll start: RSS and blogs, news vs. social media XMPP vs. WhatsApp/FB messenger/Snapchat IRC vs. Matrix, Teams, Discord etc. Forums vs. Social media, Reddit, Lemmy(?)
[–] totallynotsocsa@beehaw.org 17 points 3 years ago (8 children) XMPP is very underappreciated. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] livingcoder@lemmy.austinwadeheller.com 4 points 3 years ago Helpful Wikipedia link (for those like me who had no idea what XMPP was): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP permalink fedilink source parent [–] ISOmorph@feddit.de 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It so is. The only protocol that might beat it once it gets a desktop client is SimpleX permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ndr@beehaw.org 3 points 3 years ago I’m glad you mentioned SimpleX. I think it’s a really cool and promising idea, yet hardly anyone knows about it :( permalink fedilink source parent [–] monobot@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (4 children) On paper it was great, but in practice no one implemented it fully and while I don't know why it is probably complicated. Jabber was the way to go 10+ years ago but than everything stopped since no one managed to make clients for voice and video chat, than we just all dropped it. I would call it big fail since it didn't manage to materialize in usable form. On the other hand, it is never too late to make new better protocol based on xmmp for modern times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] leetnewb@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago (3 children) xmpp has clients doing voice and video - it has for years. It is p2p and falls over in some nat to nat situations, which is where stun/turn come in on the server. Check out jmp.chat - they built a voip phone service using xmpp clients. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] monobot@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) I know they exists, but never got to the usability point we need.m, or even if it did it was too late. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] leetnewb@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) If a sizable chunk of the Reddit community can move to an alpha/beta grade link aggregator platform that can't handle the load because we believe in the decentralization or the instance's mission or the overall concept of federation, why is it too late for the community to re-adopt a mature messaging platform that mirrors those ambitions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyKopper@lemmy.w.on-t.work 1 point 3 years ago Because messaging of that sort needs contacts and Redditors (including me tbf) don't have friends. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] livingcoder@lemmy.austinwadeheller.com 4 points 3 years ago Helpful Wikipedia link (for those like me who had no idea what XMPP was): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ISOmorph@feddit.de 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It so is. The only protocol that might beat it once it gets a desktop client is SimpleX permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ndr@beehaw.org 3 points 3 years ago I’m glad you mentioned SimpleX. I think it’s a really cool and promising idea, yet hardly anyone knows about it :( permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ndr@beehaw.org 3 points 3 years ago I’m glad you mentioned SimpleX. I think it’s a really cool and promising idea, yet hardly anyone knows about it :( permalink fedilink source parent
[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (4 children) On paper it was great, but in practice no one implemented it fully and while I don't know why it is probably complicated. Jabber was the way to go 10+ years ago but than everything stopped since no one managed to make clients for voice and video chat, than we just all dropped it. I would call it big fail since it didn't manage to materialize in usable form. On the other hand, it is never too late to make new better protocol based on xmmp for modern times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] leetnewb@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago (3 children) xmpp has clients doing voice and video - it has for years. It is p2p and falls over in some nat to nat situations, which is where stun/turn come in on the server. Check out jmp.chat - they built a voip phone service using xmpp clients. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] monobot@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) I know they exists, but never got to the usability point we need.m, or even if it did it was too late. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] leetnewb@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) If a sizable chunk of the Reddit community can move to an alpha/beta grade link aggregator platform that can't handle the load because we believe in the decentralization or the instance's mission or the overall concept of federation, why is it too late for the community to re-adopt a mature messaging platform that mirrors those ambitions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyKopper@lemmy.w.on-t.work 1 point 3 years ago Because messaging of that sort needs contacts and Redditors (including me tbf) don't have friends. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] leetnewb@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago (3 children) xmpp has clients doing voice and video - it has for years. It is p2p and falls over in some nat to nat situations, which is where stun/turn come in on the server. Check out jmp.chat - they built a voip phone service using xmpp clients. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] monobot@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) I know they exists, but never got to the usability point we need.m, or even if it did it was too late. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] leetnewb@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) If a sizable chunk of the Reddit community can move to an alpha/beta grade link aggregator platform that can't handle the load because we believe in the decentralization or the instance's mission or the overall concept of federation, why is it too late for the community to re-adopt a mature messaging platform that mirrors those ambitions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyKopper@lemmy.w.on-t.work 1 point 3 years ago Because messaging of that sort needs contacts and Redditors (including me tbf) don't have friends. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) I know they exists, but never got to the usability point we need.m, or even if it did it was too late. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] leetnewb@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) If a sizable chunk of the Reddit community can move to an alpha/beta grade link aggregator platform that can't handle the load because we believe in the decentralization or the instance's mission or the overall concept of federation, why is it too late for the community to re-adopt a mature messaging platform that mirrors those ambitions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyKopper@lemmy.w.on-t.work 1 point 3 years ago Because messaging of that sort needs contacts and Redditors (including me tbf) don't have friends. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] leetnewb@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) If a sizable chunk of the Reddit community can move to an alpha/beta grade link aggregator platform that can't handle the load because we believe in the decentralization or the instance's mission or the overall concept of federation, why is it too late for the community to re-adopt a mature messaging platform that mirrors those ambitions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ShittyKopper@lemmy.w.on-t.work 1 point 3 years ago Because messaging of that sort needs contacts and Redditors (including me tbf) don't have friends. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShittyKopper@lemmy.w.on-t.work 1 point 3 years ago Because messaging of that sort needs contacts and Redditors (including me tbf) don't have friends. permalink fedilink source parent