▲ 115 ▼ In your opinion, which FOSS software is by many considered "old" or "obsolete", but are in fact, in your opinion, in many ways better than the newer alternatives? (feddit.dk) submitted 3 years ago* by privsecfoss@feddit.dk to c/foss@beehaw.org 227 comments fedilink hide all child comments I'll start: RSS and blogs, news vs. social media XMPP vs. WhatsApp/FB messenger/Snapchat IRC vs. Matrix, Teams, Discord etc. Forums vs. Social media, Reddit, Lemmy(?)
[–] navDend0@beehaw.org 10 points 3 years ago (9 children) vi, lynx, mutt, and of course X11 > wayland though also controversially, I'll take systemD over sysVinit permalink fedilink source hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] freeman@lemmy.pub 6 points 3 years ago (5 children) My distaste for systemd has been replaced by my distaste for netplan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago (3 children) I hadn't heard of it, so I looked it up, and…WTF? Systemd-networkd with extra steps? Systemd-networkd does not need extra steps! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] freeman@lemmy.pub 1 point 3 years ago* (2 children) Yeah. The worst part is that things it’s supposed to protect against like applying a bad config doesn’t work half the time. I’ve run the test command before and it just buggered the box until I made a drive. Oh yeah and they recently (at least witb Ubuntu) chnaged their default for DHCP from using a MAC address to a UUID for the dhcp identifier. Which is amazing if you use dhcp reservations because suddenly your box is just off on another IP. Netplan is 100% a solution that didn’t have a problem to begin with permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DrWeevilJammer@lm.rdbt.no 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Netplan is 100% a solution that didn’t have a problem to begin with This does not surprise me from a company that, well... * gestures distastefuly at snaps * permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] alongwaysgone@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago Honestly, if Ubuntu hadn't pushed snaps so damned hard, I'd probably still be running Ubuntu. I don't hate them. But... They're just obnoxious. Honestly, I wish Flatpaks and Appimages weren't pushed so hard on other distros too. But, such is life. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HrBingR@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago I quite like systemd and netplan. Though the latter I can live without. permalink fedilink source parent [–] livingcoder@lemmy.austinwadeheller.com 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Is lynx worth using? How does JavaScript work? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_(web_browser) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 4 points 3 years ago Lynx doesn't support Javascript. Links ( http://links.twibright.com/ ) is marginally more usable, but still has no Javascript, and I wouldn't want it as a daily driver either. Text-mode browsers just can't handle Web 2.0 (although, to be honest, I'm not that fond of Web 2.0). permalink fedilink source parent [–] laird_dave@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago urxvt is also relevant for this combo. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] freeman@lemmy.pub 6 points 3 years ago (5 children) My distaste for systemd has been replaced by my distaste for netplan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago (3 children) I hadn't heard of it, so I looked it up, and…WTF? Systemd-networkd with extra steps? Systemd-networkd does not need extra steps! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] freeman@lemmy.pub 1 point 3 years ago* (2 children) Yeah. The worst part is that things it’s supposed to protect against like applying a bad config doesn’t work half the time. I’ve run the test command before and it just buggered the box until I made a drive. Oh yeah and they recently (at least witb Ubuntu) chnaged their default for DHCP from using a MAC address to a UUID for the dhcp identifier. Which is amazing if you use dhcp reservations because suddenly your box is just off on another IP. Netplan is 100% a solution that didn’t have a problem to begin with permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DrWeevilJammer@lm.rdbt.no 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Netplan is 100% a solution that didn’t have a problem to begin with This does not surprise me from a company that, well... * gestures distastefuly at snaps * permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] alongwaysgone@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago Honestly, if Ubuntu hadn't pushed snaps so damned hard, I'd probably still be running Ubuntu. I don't hate them. But... They're just obnoxious. Honestly, I wish Flatpaks and Appimages weren't pushed so hard on other distros too. But, such is life. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HrBingR@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago I quite like systemd and netplan. Though the latter I can live without. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago (3 children) I hadn't heard of it, so I looked it up, and…WTF? Systemd-networkd with extra steps? Systemd-networkd does not need extra steps! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] freeman@lemmy.pub 1 point 3 years ago* (2 children) Yeah. The worst part is that things it’s supposed to protect against like applying a bad config doesn’t work half the time. I’ve run the test command before and it just buggered the box until I made a drive. Oh yeah and they recently (at least witb Ubuntu) chnaged their default for DHCP from using a MAC address to a UUID for the dhcp identifier. Which is amazing if you use dhcp reservations because suddenly your box is just off on another IP. Netplan is 100% a solution that didn’t have a problem to begin with permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DrWeevilJammer@lm.rdbt.no 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Netplan is 100% a solution that didn’t have a problem to begin with This does not surprise me from a company that, well... * gestures distastefuly at snaps * permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] alongwaysgone@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago Honestly, if Ubuntu hadn't pushed snaps so damned hard, I'd probably still be running Ubuntu. I don't hate them. But... They're just obnoxious. Honestly, I wish Flatpaks and Appimages weren't pushed so hard on other distros too. But, such is life. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] freeman@lemmy.pub 1 point 3 years ago* (2 children) Yeah. The worst part is that things it’s supposed to protect against like applying a bad config doesn’t work half the time. I’ve run the test command before and it just buggered the box until I made a drive. Oh yeah and they recently (at least witb Ubuntu) chnaged their default for DHCP from using a MAC address to a UUID for the dhcp identifier. Which is amazing if you use dhcp reservations because suddenly your box is just off on another IP. Netplan is 100% a solution that didn’t have a problem to begin with permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DrWeevilJammer@lm.rdbt.no 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Netplan is 100% a solution that didn’t have a problem to begin with This does not surprise me from a company that, well... * gestures distastefuly at snaps * permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] alongwaysgone@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago Honestly, if Ubuntu hadn't pushed snaps so damned hard, I'd probably still be running Ubuntu. I don't hate them. But... They're just obnoxious. Honestly, I wish Flatpaks and Appimages weren't pushed so hard on other distros too. But, such is life. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DrWeevilJammer@lm.rdbt.no 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Netplan is 100% a solution that didn’t have a problem to begin with This does not surprise me from a company that, well... * gestures distastefuly at snaps * permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] alongwaysgone@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago Honestly, if Ubuntu hadn't pushed snaps so damned hard, I'd probably still be running Ubuntu. I don't hate them. But... They're just obnoxious. Honestly, I wish Flatpaks and Appimages weren't pushed so hard on other distros too. But, such is life. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] alongwaysgone@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago Honestly, if Ubuntu hadn't pushed snaps so damned hard, I'd probably still be running Ubuntu. I don't hate them. But... They're just obnoxious. Honestly, I wish Flatpaks and Appimages weren't pushed so hard on other distros too. But, such is life. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HrBingR@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago I quite like systemd and netplan. Though the latter I can live without. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] livingcoder@lemmy.austinwadeheller.com 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Is lynx worth using? How does JavaScript work? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_(web_browser) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 4 points 3 years ago Lynx doesn't support Javascript. Links ( http://links.twibright.com/ ) is marginally more usable, but still has no Javascript, and I wouldn't want it as a daily driver either. Text-mode browsers just can't handle Web 2.0 (although, to be honest, I'm not that fond of Web 2.0). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 4 points 3 years ago Lynx doesn't support Javascript. Links ( http://links.twibright.com/ ) is marginally more usable, but still has no Javascript, and I wouldn't want it as a daily driver either. Text-mode browsers just can't handle Web 2.0 (although, to be honest, I'm not that fond of Web 2.0). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] laird_dave@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago urxvt is also relevant for this combo. permalink fedilink source parent