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Nissan develops paint that keeps cars cool in summer heat (www.asahi.com)
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Nissan Motor Co. said it has developed a new type of paint that significantly reduces the temperature inside vehicles parked in direct sunlight.

The surface of a car coated with the innovative material remains up to 12 degrees cooler than that of a vehicle with standard paint, tests showed.

The company said the coating material can help rein in the temperature rise not only on the car's body but also in the vehicle when exposed to direct sunlight.

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[–] 39 points 2 years ago (43 children)

And that’s 12 degrees Celsius (21.6 degrees Fahrenheit)! What kind of garbage article doesn’t include the units!?

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Or 53.6 degrees Fahrenheit if you believe whoever wrote the page for Nissan lmao. I guess they just typed it into a converter with no context, and the converter spat out an answer amounting to "if your thermometer says it's 12 degrees C, that would be 53.6 degrees F"... but without that context.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    How would you know it’s wrong if you don’t know fahrenheit

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Fair point, but I guess I would hope that the person being paid to write the copy would check it, since getting that right seems like it's part of their job description ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    What kind of garbage article doesn’t include the units!?

    What for? Almost no country uses Fahrenheit.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    If that's how scientists did science, we'd have mountains of confusion. "Eh, most people will get it. Good enough."

    Information like this is global. It's a single "C" for clarity. That's not an unreasonable ask.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    This is a news article, not a study, which would've more likely used Kelvin, which would be still 12 degrees. It's for everyday people, which almost all of which use Celsius to measure temperature. People outside of the few countries who use Fahrenheit don't get confused about it because it's literally the only measurement they use in their life. If you travel outside the US you will find that no one adds Fahrenheit conversations anywhere and that pretty much all temperatures are listed in Celsius.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    You're arguing that it's not worth the effort to be clear over a single letter, from a place of what appears to be some American-oriented xenophobia. Not a good look.

    But to your point about travel, that isn't analogous. This isn't an American tourist going to another country, where the temperature context is Celsius. This is an article disseminated globally; by its very nature, the context should be agnostic of locale, and so it would behoove the authors to be clear (again, with a single letter) so that there is no confusion.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Calling out US entitlement isn't xenophobia. That self applied victim complex is just proving my point.

    This is an article disseminated globally

    Anything on the internet is inherently accessible globally, unless there's a geo-block in place. That does not mean that the things on the internet have to inherently be tailored to US standards or with US viewers in mind. The clearly not US sounding website "The Asahi Shimbun" even specifically has the subtitle "Asia & Japan Watch", which should make it more than obvious that this is not a US focused media. The only confusion coming up here is when you have to assume US units being used everywhere else, which simply is not the case.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Again, you're quibbling about the letter C for the sake of clarity and calling that US entitlement. You're welcome to die on that hill, but it seems like a silly one to die upon because you have some beef with Americans.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Again, you're quibbling about the letter C for the sake of clarity

    No, that's what you are doing. lol I'm telling you that the letter is irrelevant for the majority of people in the world because we all already assuming the correct units of temperature and you seem to take an issue with that fact.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Me: "We should be clear and add a C, so we know for sure what units we're dealing with and don't make assumptions."

    You: "No, that's American-centrism! We don't need to include them! Most of the world already knows what they mean!"

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Thanks for proving my point. lol

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    I’ve definitely seen some non-US news sources convert to US common units based on my locale. I’d much prefer they just clearly state what they’re using, especially like here where it’s just a matter of adding one character - similar to time where it’s adding three characters for the time zone.

    It’s not even necessarily a US centric view asking for it - taking the high road here: anyone in the US interested in science is used to seeing both common and metric units. it’s really no big deal to switch back and forth. Just be aware there are multiple possibilities and indicate which you’re using.

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  • [+] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (16 children)

    I agree clarification never hurts, but the entire world except for ~4% of highly entitled population will read that right.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    There’s no need for that attitude though.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

    Fair, my bad! Sorry if it was offensive.

    I just got a little sick of all the Fahrenheit (and also Imperial) domination around here. This, in turn, is often left without clarification, despite the system being way less popular.

    Lemmy as a platform is extremely America-centric, despite having tons of folks from everywhere else, which is aggravating in the long run. World really, really doesn't all revolve around land of the free.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    Being from Russia, I'm fine with people using the units they are more confident with or used to.

    (Not specifying units may be a bit confusing, but then people here don't say\write "it's 20 degrees Celsius" either.)

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Russian-languaged media is not commonly consumed by someone living under imperial/Fahrenheit system, so it's only natural.

    For English, it might make sense to at least always add Celsius in parentheses, unless it's highly regional news.

    Also, привет российским леммиводам :D

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The attitude comes from Americans expecting the world circling around them.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The comment asked to list out the units which is a common thing to do. You don’t list out a scientific value without its units. They didn’t say list it out for Americans. Maybe the study was done in the US and they listed it in F. How would you know? So who came in here with an attitude?

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    No, they converted it to Fahrenheit because that's what they use & expect to be clarified upon.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    No, they first listed the units which is Celsius and then converted it themselves and didn’t excepted it to be converted. No one is complaining that it’s not in F but rather that the units are missing.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Given that a lot of English language media are either located in the US or target the US market, I'd expect the value to be expressed in Fahrenheit unless stated otherwise.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Original article is about Asia, and Lemmy is an international platform, so neither applies here

    I don't mind some actually regional things presented in whatever system they use in there - although I'd much prefer if we'd all go metric already. C'mon!

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    The original article is not about Asia, it's about a technical innovation. Regardless, although we're on an international platform, it's easy to see that many topics are US-centered, and many sources too - regardless of the subject.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "Asia&Japan Watch" is right under their name.

    This topic is not centered in the US by any metric. It's just an example of a Lemmy bias.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago

    a lot of English language media are either located in the US or target the US market

    or target the US market

    So regardless of the website's name or origin, it could be an English language outlet targeted at the US audience. Which is quite common. Which is why I explicitly added this remark to the comment you initially replied.

    So why are we back here? What exactly are you trying to prove? All I said that I'd expect a value to be expressed in Fahrenheit unless stated otherwise. I didn't say that you should do that, or that's somewhat objective. I was simply arguing that despite only ~4% of population using Fahrenheit, it has much more influence due to the listed factors.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Why would it be anything else?

    It's clearly too low a number to be °K. And since the only two valid units of measurement for temperature are Kelvin and Celsius, it must be °C.

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