▲ 781 ▼ Amazon faces potential break-up as FTC finalizes antitrust lawsuit | The FTC is getting ready for the big one (www.techspot.com) submitted 3 years ago by L4s@lemmy.world [M, B] to c/technology@lemmy.world 127 comments fedilink hide all child comments Amazon faces potential break-up as FTC finalizes antitrust lawsuit | The FTC is getting ready for the big one::undefined
[–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 55 points 3 years ago (15 children) We need to do the same with Microsoft and Google permalink fedilink source hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] kittenbridgeasteroid@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 3 years ago And like the other 10 companies that own pretty much every brand in the country. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Techmaster@lemmy.world 16 points 3 years ago (5 children) But not Apple? The most valuable company in history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago (3 children) Eeeh. Apple's App Store fees can be a bit much, but all told the company doesn't have enough power on any market to warrant such a huge intervention I think. Just forcing them to make their ecosystem more open would be enough. Like how the EU wants to force them to allow 3rd party package managers on iOS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 7 points 3 years ago Luckily the EU wants much more, and already accepted regulation that will be implemented later this year to open all ecosystems up, completely. iMessage will have to provide an open API that provides the same service levels than the native client for example. permalink fedilink source parent [–] makyo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Eh they should do it anyway permalink fedilink source parent [–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Ideally this is all that will happen with Amazon as well permalink fedilink source parent [–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago I want to see the same happen to Apple, to many fingers in too many pies. Their app store, + cell phone, computer, publishing, music store, streaming service, ect ect. Want to see google, Microsoft, apple, and others all broken up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) They went after MS in the 90s. Nothing really came of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Phoenixbouncing@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago Yes and no. The simple fact that you're not using IE6 on MSN with Bing search to access a Windows server is more or less proof that the constraints placed on Microsoft at that time did actually have an impact (even if I felt robbed that the company wasn't split up at the time). Today the one thing Microsoft is still dominante in is Office software (and even then Google docs is snapping at their heals). OS? Android is more popular than windows Server OS? Linux rules the roost Browser? Chrome The company that really needs scrutiny ATM is Google. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kittenbridgeasteroid@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 years ago Are you high? permalink fedilink source parent [–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago Disney too permalink fedilink source parent [–] ELI70@lemmy.run 0 points 3 years ago (3 children) What about facebook, disney, netflix, twitter, apple, uber, airbnb? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) Uber has direct competition in Lyft, among other rideshares and entrenched taxi companies. Disney and Netflix are literal competitors. You're on an alternative to Twitter right now, and Facebook is yet another. Apple has competitors in every industry. AirBnB has both tons of competition and 26% market share - below Booking.com permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oligopolies are still not competitive. We need research into finding out what market share starts distorting competition, and tying antitrust to that. A market with 2 competitors can still be broken down further. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* Oligopoly has an actual meaning and that meaning isn't "companies I have heard of" What's funny is you hate Uber because you've heard of them but Yellow Cab had a literal monopolistic chokehold and you didn't give a fuck at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kittenbridgeasteroid@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 3 years ago And like the other 10 companies that own pretty much every brand in the country. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Techmaster@lemmy.world 16 points 3 years ago (5 children) But not Apple? The most valuable company in history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago (3 children) Eeeh. Apple's App Store fees can be a bit much, but all told the company doesn't have enough power on any market to warrant such a huge intervention I think. Just forcing them to make their ecosystem more open would be enough. Like how the EU wants to force them to allow 3rd party package managers on iOS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 7 points 3 years ago Luckily the EU wants much more, and already accepted regulation that will be implemented later this year to open all ecosystems up, completely. iMessage will have to provide an open API that provides the same service levels than the native client for example. permalink fedilink source parent [–] makyo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Eh they should do it anyway permalink fedilink source parent [–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Ideally this is all that will happen with Amazon as well permalink fedilink source parent [–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago I want to see the same happen to Apple, to many fingers in too many pies. Their app store, + cell phone, computer, publishing, music store, streaming service, ect ect. Want to see google, Microsoft, apple, and others all broken up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago (3 children) Eeeh. Apple's App Store fees can be a bit much, but all told the company doesn't have enough power on any market to warrant such a huge intervention I think. Just forcing them to make their ecosystem more open would be enough. Like how the EU wants to force them to allow 3rd party package managers on iOS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 7 points 3 years ago Luckily the EU wants much more, and already accepted regulation that will be implemented later this year to open all ecosystems up, completely. iMessage will have to provide an open API that provides the same service levels than the native client for example. permalink fedilink source parent [–] makyo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Eh they should do it anyway permalink fedilink source parent [–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Ideally this is all that will happen with Amazon as well permalink fedilink source parent
[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 7 points 3 years ago Luckily the EU wants much more, and already accepted regulation that will be implemented later this year to open all ecosystems up, completely. iMessage will have to provide an open API that provides the same service levels than the native client for example. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] makyo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Eh they should do it anyway permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago Ideally this is all that will happen with Amazon as well permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago I want to see the same happen to Apple, to many fingers in too many pies. Their app store, + cell phone, computer, publishing, music store, streaming service, ect ect. Want to see google, Microsoft, apple, and others all broken up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) They went after MS in the 90s. Nothing really came of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Phoenixbouncing@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago Yes and no. The simple fact that you're not using IE6 on MSN with Bing search to access a Windows server is more or less proof that the constraints placed on Microsoft at that time did actually have an impact (even if I felt robbed that the company wasn't split up at the time). Today the one thing Microsoft is still dominante in is Office software (and even then Google docs is snapping at their heals). OS? Android is more popular than windows Server OS? Linux rules the roost Browser? Chrome The company that really needs scrutiny ATM is Google. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kittenbridgeasteroid@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 years ago Are you high? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Phoenixbouncing@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago Yes and no. The simple fact that you're not using IE6 on MSN with Bing search to access a Windows server is more or less proof that the constraints placed on Microsoft at that time did actually have an impact (even if I felt robbed that the company wasn't split up at the time). Today the one thing Microsoft is still dominante in is Office software (and even then Google docs is snapping at their heals). OS? Android is more popular than windows Server OS? Linux rules the roost Browser? Chrome The company that really needs scrutiny ATM is Google. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kittenbridgeasteroid@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 years ago Are you high? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ELI70@lemmy.run 0 points 3 years ago (3 children) What about facebook, disney, netflix, twitter, apple, uber, airbnb? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) Uber has direct competition in Lyft, among other rideshares and entrenched taxi companies. Disney and Netflix are literal competitors. You're on an alternative to Twitter right now, and Facebook is yet another. Apple has competitors in every industry. AirBnB has both tons of competition and 26% market share - below Booking.com permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oligopolies are still not competitive. We need research into finding out what market share starts distorting competition, and tying antitrust to that. A market with 2 competitors can still be broken down further. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* Oligopoly has an actual meaning and that meaning isn't "companies I have heard of" What's funny is you hate Uber because you've heard of them but Yellow Cab had a literal monopolistic chokehold and you didn't give a fuck at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SCB@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) Uber has direct competition in Lyft, among other rideshares and entrenched taxi companies. Disney and Netflix are literal competitors. You're on an alternative to Twitter right now, and Facebook is yet another. Apple has competitors in every industry. AirBnB has both tons of competition and 26% market share - below Booking.com permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oligopolies are still not competitive. We need research into finding out what market share starts distorting competition, and tying antitrust to that. A market with 2 competitors can still be broken down further. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* Oligopoly has an actual meaning and that meaning isn't "companies I have heard of" What's funny is you hate Uber because you've heard of them but Yellow Cab had a literal monopolistic chokehold and you didn't give a fuck at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oligopolies are still not competitive. We need research into finding out what market share starts distorting competition, and tying antitrust to that. A market with 2 competitors can still be broken down further. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* Oligopoly has an actual meaning and that meaning isn't "companies I have heard of" What's funny is you hate Uber because you've heard of them but Yellow Cab had a literal monopolistic chokehold and you didn't give a fuck at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* Oligopoly has an actual meaning and that meaning isn't "companies I have heard of" What's funny is you hate Uber because you've heard of them but Yellow Cab had a literal monopolistic chokehold and you didn't give a fuck at all. permalink fedilink source parent