▲ 1231 ▼ Trans men enter Miss Italy contest to protest anti-trans ‘women from birth’ rule (sh.itjust.works) submitted 3 years ago by Wats0ns@sh.itjust.works to c/maliciouscompliance@lemmy.world 376 comments fedilink hide all child comments More details: https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/07/26/miss-italy-trans-men-trans-women-ban/
[+] potosi@lemmy.world -24 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Imotali@lemmy.world 41 points 3 years ago* (2 children) Frankly, I don't care what you think of it. Transphobia is not allowed. This isn't a democracy. It's pretty simple: don't be an asshole. Every comment removed violates the civility rules of this instance. Which reads thus (emphasis mine): Do not engage in name calling, ad hominem attacks, or any other uncivil behaviour. Criticize ideas, never people. IOW: Be transphobic and be prepared for me to iron fist the vagueness of those words. It's pretty easy not to be an asshole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Derproid@lemm.ee -10 points 3 years ago (2 children) Just to play devils advocate, wouldn't that mean it's okay to criticize the idea of transgenderism if you don't criticize the people who are transgender (although not really sure if that's even possible)? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Imotali@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes. If you could prove transgenderism exists. See because you attach an -ism to it you are (in English) saying "the ideology of transgender individuals" which is "we exist" which is not an ideology. It is a fact. You can disagree with facts all you want but it doesn't make you smart.or intellectual.... it makes you wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Derproid@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Imotali@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago "The idea of being transgender" it's not an idea anymore than you think about being cisgender. It's a false dichotomy created by cisgender people who fail to understand the issue or fall victim to the "gay agenda" rhetoric of right wing media. A better way to phrase it is no trans person thinks of themselves as trans. A trans woman thinks of herself as a woman. A trans man thinks of himself as a man. So there's no "idea" of "being transgender" unless you're a cis person who thinks they know what they're talking about. It's like the phrase "differently abled" only able bodied people think like that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Captain_Waffles@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago That would be like trying to criticize blackness without criticizing black people, it's not possible. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Lorium_O@lemm.ee -29 points 3 years ago* (1 child) “Criticize ideas, never people.” Guess I can’t criticize serial killers- nevermind permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Imotali@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago Them's be the rules of this entire instance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gunnm@monero.town 7 points 3 years ago* That's the thing about choosing an instance, it's his house, his rules. At least with Lemmy it's like you can move out to the next building, Reddit is like living in jail nowhere left to move. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Imotali@lemmy.world 41 points 3 years ago* (2 children) Frankly, I don't care what you think of it. Transphobia is not allowed. This isn't a democracy. It's pretty simple: don't be an asshole. Every comment removed violates the civility rules of this instance. Which reads thus (emphasis mine): Do not engage in name calling, ad hominem attacks, or any other uncivil behaviour. Criticize ideas, never people. IOW: Be transphobic and be prepared for me to iron fist the vagueness of those words. It's pretty easy not to be an asshole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Derproid@lemm.ee -10 points 3 years ago (2 children) Just to play devils advocate, wouldn't that mean it's okay to criticize the idea of transgenderism if you don't criticize the people who are transgender (although not really sure if that's even possible)? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Imotali@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes. If you could prove transgenderism exists. See because you attach an -ism to it you are (in English) saying "the ideology of transgender individuals" which is "we exist" which is not an ideology. It is a fact. You can disagree with facts all you want but it doesn't make you smart.or intellectual.... it makes you wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Derproid@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Imotali@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago "The idea of being transgender" it's not an idea anymore than you think about being cisgender. It's a false dichotomy created by cisgender people who fail to understand the issue or fall victim to the "gay agenda" rhetoric of right wing media. A better way to phrase it is no trans person thinks of themselves as trans. A trans woman thinks of herself as a woman. A trans man thinks of himself as a man. So there's no "idea" of "being transgender" unless you're a cis person who thinks they know what they're talking about. It's like the phrase "differently abled" only able bodied people think like that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Captain_Waffles@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago That would be like trying to criticize blackness without criticizing black people, it's not possible. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Lorium_O@lemm.ee -29 points 3 years ago* (1 child) “Criticize ideas, never people.” Guess I can’t criticize serial killers- nevermind permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Imotali@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago Them's be the rules of this entire instance. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Derproid@lemm.ee -10 points 3 years ago (2 children) Just to play devils advocate, wouldn't that mean it's okay to criticize the idea of transgenderism if you don't criticize the people who are transgender (although not really sure if that's even possible)? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Imotali@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes. If you could prove transgenderism exists. See because you attach an -ism to it you are (in English) saying "the ideology of transgender individuals" which is "we exist" which is not an ideology. It is a fact. You can disagree with facts all you want but it doesn't make you smart.or intellectual.... it makes you wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Derproid@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Imotali@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago "The idea of being transgender" it's not an idea anymore than you think about being cisgender. It's a false dichotomy created by cisgender people who fail to understand the issue or fall victim to the "gay agenda" rhetoric of right wing media. A better way to phrase it is no trans person thinks of themselves as trans. A trans woman thinks of herself as a woman. A trans man thinks of himself as a man. So there's no "idea" of "being transgender" unless you're a cis person who thinks they know what they're talking about. It's like the phrase "differently abled" only able bodied people think like that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Captain_Waffles@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago That would be like trying to criticize blackness without criticizing black people, it's not possible. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Imotali@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes. If you could prove transgenderism exists. See because you attach an -ism to it you are (in English) saying "the ideology of transgender individuals" which is "we exist" which is not an ideology. It is a fact. You can disagree with facts all you want but it doesn't make you smart.or intellectual.... it makes you wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Derproid@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Imotali@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago "The idea of being transgender" it's not an idea anymore than you think about being cisgender. It's a false dichotomy created by cisgender people who fail to understand the issue or fall victim to the "gay agenda" rhetoric of right wing media. A better way to phrase it is no trans person thinks of themselves as trans. A trans woman thinks of herself as a woman. A trans man thinks of himself as a man. So there's no "idea" of "being transgender" unless you're a cis person who thinks they know what they're talking about. It's like the phrase "differently abled" only able bodied people think like that. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Derproid@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Imotali@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago "The idea of being transgender" it's not an idea anymore than you think about being cisgender. It's a false dichotomy created by cisgender people who fail to understand the issue or fall victim to the "gay agenda" rhetoric of right wing media. A better way to phrase it is no trans person thinks of themselves as trans. A trans woman thinks of herself as a woman. A trans man thinks of himself as a man. So there's no "idea" of "being transgender" unless you're a cis person who thinks they know what they're talking about. It's like the phrase "differently abled" only able bodied people think like that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Imotali@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago "The idea of being transgender" it's not an idea anymore than you think about being cisgender. It's a false dichotomy created by cisgender people who fail to understand the issue or fall victim to the "gay agenda" rhetoric of right wing media. A better way to phrase it is no trans person thinks of themselves as trans. A trans woman thinks of herself as a woman. A trans man thinks of himself as a man. So there's no "idea" of "being transgender" unless you're a cis person who thinks they know what they're talking about. It's like the phrase "differently abled" only able bodied people think like that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Captain_Waffles@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago That would be like trying to criticize blackness without criticizing black people, it's not possible. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Lorium_O@lemm.ee -29 points 3 years ago* (1 child) “Criticize ideas, never people.” Guess I can’t criticize serial killers- nevermind permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Imotali@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago Them's be the rules of this entire instance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Imotali@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago Them's be the rules of this entire instance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gunnm@monero.town 7 points 3 years ago* That's the thing about choosing an instance, it's his house, his rules. At least with Lemmy it's like you can move out to the next building, Reddit is like living in jail nowhere left to move. permalink fedilink source parent
