I am certainly not a fan of turtle dude, but that isn't a nice thing to say and isn't in line with the Beehaw philosophy. He doesn't have the same values as a lot of us, but everyone has friends and family that would miss them and be sad if they died. Instead of wishing bad on people, let's try to focus on positive change. He should retire...a lot of them should retire. What incentives do they have for NOT retiring? Money? What else? What incentives do they have TO retire? How do we make retiring look more inviting to them?