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[–] [email protected] 176 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Tbh everyone just needs to leave reddit

Let the bots take over

It's always been Stormfront 2.0 anyway

Fuck reddit

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, at this point, there is really no fucking saving it or hoping for changes, they will go as far as they need to go to get their profits back up. It must be abandoned. The only time I ever spend on reddit is to convince people to migrate to kbin or lemmy (nicely, dont be annoying)

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I find that a large majority of redditors are still somehow completely clueless about what's happening.

So I made this little summary of events inviting confused redditors to lemmy/kbin if anyone wants to copy/paste; seems to get people to understand.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@OtakuAltair At this point I don't care about redittors or reddit. It can go on to be wildly successful, doesn't matter to me, I've moved on.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Username checks out?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Alot of us wouldn't be on here either if it wasn't explained to us; I think the confused people deserve at least an explanation too

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, the majority will not care. Reddit's app ranks first in iOS' app store after Twitter. This is what Reddit wants, people to stop using third-party apps so that they can easily target ads to users.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Even a small portion of users switching to Lemmy/kbin (like us) will mean more competition in the long run.

Specially with great looking ios apps like Artemis in the works that you could easily recommend

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I had no idea lemmy was a thing until r/piracy. More big subs need to switch

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

And more people to copy/paste summaries like that! People can't switch if they don't know.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What really worked for me was the https://sub.rehab website. When I found that, it made me realize I need to stick with the people who actually built the subs I love -- the mods. Here I am.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

this is great! thank you!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yup. The good ui really helps sell how big the move is

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

You know how there are posts all over Reddit (and even all over here) saying "what's with the porn on r/interestingasfuck?" or "I don't know what's going on with John Oliver"?

It's because of them that the "protests" must continue. Raising awareness is the point. Only a small percentage even know what's going on.

Reddit would love for everyone to quietly go away, they'll pretend nothing happened and move on with a small chunk of users missing but still growing.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

@LinkOpensChest_wav

@minnieo

It's always been Stormfront 2.0 anyway

Exception taken.

Don't get me wrong: it has been an absolute dogshit downward spiral for at least the last five years, but what it has become bares almost no resemblance to what it was 15 years ago - or even 8 years ago.

It had great potential and utility. All of it squandered via some of the worst decisions possible. Each of which ignored the current user base in favor of a quick buck.

It needs to be taken out behind the barn and shot.

Echoing: Fuck Reddit.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

they won't

i tried to move my 100k subscriber sub to kbin (i also offered two different chatrooms)

6 came to kbin and people started attacking me for having the sub closed (one person even resorted to transphobia like jesus fucking christ) and being "political" and one person even made their own version of my subreddit

moving is too much work (it's actually not that much work, but since we now need two videos playing at the same time and can only watch those vids for 30 seconds, everything is "too much work"). that's why people are still on facebook, twitter, instagram, and tiktok.

i'm very glad there's an acceptable amount of activity on the "threadiverse" right now... but i just don't have hope that everyone will leave.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think your post demonstrates that it's a good thing everyone won't be coming here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

kbin has seemed pretty chill so far

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure what the skill issue is on that sub, but I, a moron, had no more trouble coming here than I did navigating reddit

Those are either bootlickers or bots, who can safely be disregarded

74% of reddit were ignorant assholes anyway, so no loss

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just deleted my reddit account. Fuck that bs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I've overwritten anything useful from mine, and I'll be deleting mine after June 30. Not that I am using reddit, but I want to contribute to that drop in users that will come once 3PA are disabled.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Reddit's relevance came from the people that used the app, not the app itself. If Reddit wants to fuck over the people that made the app what it is today, they will end up useless.

Reddit is not like Twitter in that it thrived from mass population of people using it. It thrived from quality users that provided quality content.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Ehhh. I think that there's value to having a large userbase. First, a large userbase means that there are going to tend to be more people to provide quality content. Second, some people contribute content because they want to reach a large audience -- I understand that this is one reason that /r/askhistorians decided not to participate.

None of this is to say that this won't have a negative impact on Reddit. And I think that the observation, which I've seen some other places, is that these changes probably disproportionately impacts people who were contributing content. Just that I don't think that one can reduce the value of having a large userbase to nil either.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ironically this API issue will kill bots, which was needed.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It will only slow them temporarily you don't need api for bots

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, it'll only kill the useful ones in the long run.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Yeah. The unethical bots will just use scrapers, as they already do for the many websites that don't offer APIs. They're already violating ToS, so they don't care. Ethical ones won't have that option (at least not past the fairly low quota).

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Correct. Now the bots will be constantly scraping the pages of every post which will be a much bigger burden on their servers.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

It's funny, years ago websites switched to openly available APIs specifically to lessen server burden because of bots. Now they're swapping away from APIs because of bots, but those bots are just gonna go back to scraping.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Sounds like Reddit has a skill issue.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Exactly spez forgot why they needed an api

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

From my understanding, they already aren't using the API.

If the spam bots were using the API, then Reddit would have been able to shut them down trivially. Part of logging in via API requires a "client ID" that uniquely identifies the creator of the app/bot being used.

They could theoretically have each bot account create its own client ID, but even that would be a pretty obvious thing to look for.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Spam bots don't really need the API access level that calls for the increased fees.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, finally using this site lol. Admins have gone full dictator over there.

So we get a boost and upvote here eh? Neat

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Upvote = Like
Boost = Retweet

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm eager to see how reddit becomes a steaming turd after June 30th, that imbecile is gonna end up with nothing of value in his hands. Let's see where that profit comes from then

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It will be another giant soulless site for the masses to endlessly scroll and see the same tired reposts and memes. They're welcome to it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@LinkOpensChest_wav @minnieo delete all your posts and comments first. I did it manually … it was interesting to all those bits float by.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used Power Delete Suite, and I overwrote my comments instead of merely deleting. That makes the data even less useful to reddit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

@LinkOpensChest_wav That makes total sense in order to make reddit less valuable. It only took me an hour and I did it manually because wanted to see my comments -- there were many kind and interesting things I wrote. It was kind of sad and it also felt right to just go.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That is the solution.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only good that can truly come of this at this stage is sabotaging Huffman's hopes of cashing out for a second time, after he sold his stake for a ""mere"" 10 million back in the day.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Imagine having more money than anyone can spend in a lifetime and users who create the content for you. All you have to do is sit on your ass and do and say nothing, but then imagine what a pants-on-head stupid fool you'd have to be to do anything to mess that up, to let your ego totally disrupt the sweet deal you've got going. That's Steve Huffman -- the king of all losers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

PSA: The shitty website this person mentioned bears NO RESEMBLANCE to reddit.

It's always been S---------- 2.0 anyway

that is a really fucked up thing to say. idk who you are or what are your motivations.

making an equivalency between reddit and a 100% white supremacist nazi website is:

a) promoting that website

b) saying that website is similar to reddit. Does S----------- have the variety of users and topics as reddit? No! Whatever your criticism of reddit, however over tolerant reddit was of some really shitty communities, it was not founded explicitly and exclusively as a way of promoting genocide and violence.

Your comparison serves only to uplift S------------. Which may or may not be your intention.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's been overrun by white supremacists since I first joined in 2011, and that's never changed.

Check any popular sub on r/all, and they're the prevailing voice that's never silenced. r/PublicFreakout, r/mildlyinfuriating, r/interestingasfuck, r/AskReddit and r/unpopularopinion are just a few examples of subreddits where white supremacists run rampant. It's so bad that I deleted my first account due to receiving weekly homophobic death threats, which went ignored by the mods and admins.

Reddit has always been a bastion of white supremacy and pedophilia under the guise of "free speech." That's demonstrably true. The whole "leans left" thing is just more propaganda.

Edit: I maintain that reddit was founded specifically to platform hate speech. It's certainly been consistently pursuing that goal

But you are correct in saying that reddit is not the same as Stormfront. It is much worse than Stormfront in that most users don't perceive the white supremacist subtext in the majority of threads on popular subs

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Were we even using the same site? What the fuck are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I could see some disgruntled users intentionally trolling and spamming the subs just to trash it in revenge for what Reddit is doing to them.

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