Firefox on Debian stable is so old that websites yell at you to upgrade to a newer browser. And last time I tried installing Debian testing (or was it debian unstable?), the installer shat itself trying to make the bootloader. After I got it to boot, apt refused to work because of a missing symlink to busybox. Why on earth do they even need busybox if the base install already comes with full gnu coreutils? I remember Debian as the distro that Just Wroks(TM), when did it all go so wrong? Is anyone else here having similar issues, or am I doing something wrong?

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[–] 35 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Debian is working as intended. You are wanting to use Ubuntu or Mint if you want more up to date packages.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    They can just use Flatpak as it will be the newest outside of Arch. Alternatively they could run Distrobox with something like Fedora.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    I stopped using flatpak when I found out both I had to update outside of the package manager. Also using flatpak gave me some issues with my sound card, so I just run the .deb. To each their own though, which is why I love Linux.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian

    Installing outside packages is generally not a good idea. You can use Distrobox with a upstream distro like Fedora or you can use Debian Back ports.

    https://backports.debian.org/

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Again, not arguing against, just why I don’t…. You do you, I’m just talking about me. Just cause I don’t use something for some reason doesn’t make me anti that thing. Linux community can be so volatile sometimes

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    fair, that i heard so much shit about people hating flatpak when it can be very helpful for newcomers that it got to my head, sorry

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    It can be tough through words to understand intent sometimes, and I to write sarcastic and dry, so no problem.

    Flatpak is helpful, it’s how I ran several programs before my work forced me to windows, it does have its place in the toolbox.

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