▲ 62 ▼ Boeing CEO admits company has retaliated against whistleblowers (www.independent.co.uk) submitted 2 years ago by bot@lemmy.smeargle.fans [M, B] to c/hackernews@lemmy.smeargle.fans 13 comments fedilink hide all child comments HN Discussion
[+] Mikufan@ani.social 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (14 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children) Can we please stop the conspiracy theory nonsense? It was a funny, gallows humor Twitter post at best. Not something you should actually believe yet. I completely believe that they should be investigated as potential foul play incidents, but we have zero evidence that they were. Acting like it’s already been proven is irresponsible and spreading these conspiracies further and further for no reason is wrong. Edit: for those of you having trouble separating capability and proof, I highly recommend this fantastic short documentary piece by the legendary Errol Morris. it perfectly illustrates what I’m talking about and only takes about six minutes to watch. Highly recommended to everybody in the thread tbh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] Mikufan@ani.social 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago* (5 children) As I said in the other comment: I am open to it being true but acting as if it is at this stage is unwarranted. And no, fuck Boeing. They punished whistleblowers and cut corners on airplanes. They are trash. The problem is y’all are too comfortable assuming they literally ordered hits on 2 people with no evidence. You’re saying “it could happen because they’re big and powerful.” How is that evidence of murder? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Mikufan@ani.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago* (3 children) it can happen =/= it happened. Saying “it can’t be proven and I have no direct or even indirect relationship to this alleged incident but I know it happened” is equally wrong. I don’t know what else to say man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Mikufan@ani.social -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* What is informing this probability besides “they’re rich and can do it and have done bad things”? You said there is no evidence. What is informing this belief? Do you really not see the issue here? Again, I am FOR investigation into foul play. But we have no evidence yet of anything remotely like “Boeing had them murdered.” You can’t just keep saying “it’s just so obvious” and call that proof. permalink fedilink source parent [+] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) My dude, are you serious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago I am open to it being true but acting as if it is at this stage is unwarranted. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Unabart@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago Nice try, Boeing! permalink fedilink source parent [–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) People are entitled to express what they think happend. It's not like they made a website and are sharing links to supposed evidence of conspiracy. I don’t disagree with what you say but you are very much overreacting. In 10 years wel see a document art about the whole case and that will be how the majority of people will learn any conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* This is a very, very optimistic take given the reactions in this thread and in other threads when this topic comes up. This is how things like pizzagate happen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* Come on, it's just a little bit of murdering. It wasnt....god, even just thinking about it make me completely sick... Someone smoking weed in his own house. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children) Can we please stop the conspiracy theory nonsense? It was a funny, gallows humor Twitter post at best. Not something you should actually believe yet. I completely believe that they should be investigated as potential foul play incidents, but we have zero evidence that they were. Acting like it’s already been proven is irresponsible and spreading these conspiracies further and further for no reason is wrong. Edit: for those of you having trouble separating capability and proof, I highly recommend this fantastic short documentary piece by the legendary Errol Morris. it perfectly illustrates what I’m talking about and only takes about six minutes to watch. Highly recommended to everybody in the thread tbh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] Mikufan@ani.social 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago* (5 children) As I said in the other comment: I am open to it being true but acting as if it is at this stage is unwarranted. And no, fuck Boeing. They punished whistleblowers and cut corners on airplanes. They are trash. The problem is y’all are too comfortable assuming they literally ordered hits on 2 people with no evidence. You’re saying “it could happen because they’re big and powerful.” How is that evidence of murder? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Mikufan@ani.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago* (3 children) it can happen =/= it happened. Saying “it can’t be proven and I have no direct or even indirect relationship to this alleged incident but I know it happened” is equally wrong. I don’t know what else to say man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Mikufan@ani.social -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* What is informing this probability besides “they’re rich and can do it and have done bad things”? You said there is no evidence. What is informing this belief? Do you really not see the issue here? Again, I am FOR investigation into foul play. But we have no evidence yet of anything remotely like “Boeing had them murdered.” You can’t just keep saying “it’s just so obvious” and call that proof. permalink fedilink source parent [+] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) My dude, are you serious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago I am open to it being true but acting as if it is at this stage is unwarranted. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Unabart@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago Nice try, Boeing! permalink fedilink source parent [–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) People are entitled to express what they think happend. It's not like they made a website and are sharing links to supposed evidence of conspiracy. I don’t disagree with what you say but you are very much overreacting. In 10 years wel see a document art about the whole case and that will be how the majority of people will learn any conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* This is a very, very optimistic take given the reactions in this thread and in other threads when this topic comes up. This is how things like pizzagate happen. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Mikufan@ani.social 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago* (5 children) As I said in the other comment: I am open to it being true but acting as if it is at this stage is unwarranted. And no, fuck Boeing. They punished whistleblowers and cut corners on airplanes. They are trash. The problem is y’all are too comfortable assuming they literally ordered hits on 2 people with no evidence. You’re saying “it could happen because they’re big and powerful.” How is that evidence of murder? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Mikufan@ani.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago* (3 children) it can happen =/= it happened. Saying “it can’t be proven and I have no direct or even indirect relationship to this alleged incident but I know it happened” is equally wrong. I don’t know what else to say man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Mikufan@ani.social -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* What is informing this probability besides “they’re rich and can do it and have done bad things”? You said there is no evidence. What is informing this belief? Do you really not see the issue here? Again, I am FOR investigation into foul play. But we have no evidence yet of anything remotely like “Boeing had them murdered.” You can’t just keep saying “it’s just so obvious” and call that proof. permalink fedilink source parent [+] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago* (5 children) As I said in the other comment: I am open to it being true but acting as if it is at this stage is unwarranted. And no, fuck Boeing. They punished whistleblowers and cut corners on airplanes. They are trash. The problem is y’all are too comfortable assuming they literally ordered hits on 2 people with no evidence. You’re saying “it could happen because they’re big and powerful.” How is that evidence of murder? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Mikufan@ani.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago* (3 children) it can happen =/= it happened. Saying “it can’t be proven and I have no direct or even indirect relationship to this alleged incident but I know it happened” is equally wrong. I don’t know what else to say man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Mikufan@ani.social -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* What is informing this probability besides “they’re rich and can do it and have done bad things”? You said there is no evidence. What is informing this belief? Do you really not see the issue here? Again, I am FOR investigation into foul play. But we have no evidence yet of anything remotely like “Boeing had them murdered.” You can’t just keep saying “it’s just so obvious” and call that proof. permalink fedilink source parent [+] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Mikufan@ani.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago* (3 children) it can happen =/= it happened. Saying “it can’t be proven and I have no direct or even indirect relationship to this alleged incident but I know it happened” is equally wrong. I don’t know what else to say man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Mikufan@ani.social -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* What is informing this probability besides “they’re rich and can do it and have done bad things”? You said there is no evidence. What is informing this belief? Do you really not see the issue here? Again, I am FOR investigation into foul play. But we have no evidence yet of anything remotely like “Boeing had them murdered.” You can’t just keep saying “it’s just so obvious” and call that proof. permalink fedilink source parent [+] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago* (3 children) it can happen =/= it happened. Saying “it can’t be proven and I have no direct or even indirect relationship to this alleged incident but I know it happened” is equally wrong. I don’t know what else to say man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Mikufan@ani.social -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* What is informing this probability besides “they’re rich and can do it and have done bad things”? You said there is no evidence. What is informing this belief? Do you really not see the issue here? Again, I am FOR investigation into foul play. But we have no evidence yet of anything remotely like “Boeing had them murdered.” You can’t just keep saying “it’s just so obvious” and call that proof. permalink fedilink source parent [+] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Mikufan@ani.social -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* What is informing this probability besides “they’re rich and can do it and have done bad things”? You said there is no evidence. What is informing this belief? Do you really not see the issue here? Again, I am FOR investigation into foul play. But we have no evidence yet of anything remotely like “Boeing had them murdered.” You can’t just keep saying “it’s just so obvious” and call that proof. permalink fedilink source parent [+] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* What is informing this probability besides “they’re rich and can do it and have done bad things”? You said there is no evidence. What is informing this belief? Do you really not see the issue here? Again, I am FOR investigation into foul play. But we have no evidence yet of anything remotely like “Boeing had them murdered.” You can’t just keep saying “it’s just so obvious” and call that proof. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) My dude, are you serious? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago I am open to it being true but acting as if it is at this stage is unwarranted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago I am open to it being true but acting as if it is at this stage is unwarranted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) People are entitled to express what they think happend. It's not like they made a website and are sharing links to supposed evidence of conspiracy. I don’t disagree with what you say but you are very much overreacting. In 10 years wel see a document art about the whole case and that will be how the majority of people will learn any conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* This is a very, very optimistic take given the reactions in this thread and in other threads when this topic comes up. This is how things like pizzagate happen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* This is a very, very optimistic take given the reactions in this thread and in other threads when this topic comes up. This is how things like pizzagate happen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* Come on, it's just a little bit of murdering. It wasnt....god, even just thinking about it make me completely sick... Someone smoking weed in his own house. permalink fedilink source parent