▲ 278 ▼ YouTube is experimenting with Notes, a crowdsourced feature that lets users add context to videos (techcrunch.com) submitted 2 years ago* by misk@sopuli.xyz to c/technology@lemmy.world 102 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Concave1142@lemmy.world 99 points 2 years ago (18 children) I feel like this is what the comment section is used for. permalink fedilink source hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 30 points 2 years ago (9 children) Can the channel owner delete comments on their videos? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 50 points 2 years ago (7 children) Yes, as well as automatically hiding new comments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] expatriado@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (6 children) which is unfortunate, i think YT does it to save paid labor on moderating comments, but this allows video posters to upload misleading info and delete correcting replies, which also pairs well with hidden thumbs down permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@midwest.social 18 points 2 years ago (5 children) It also allows uploaders to stop hate filled posting, like incels trashing the comments on anything positive about female characters in media. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) It also allows uploaders to stoke hate with their videos and delete reasonable takes and people calling out misinformation in the comments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] snooggums@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago Which one is worse depends on the context of the video. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Honestly, I'd rather the channel have the first say here. It would be even better if some independent mod team could override channel owners though if there are enough reports. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Enough reports is how brigades are effective. There isn't a great solution that solves all the possibilities, it is a difficult problem. An independent mod team sounds great until you get into the details of how they are formed and the fact that they are people too who might miss nuance or hold their own shitty opinions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Sure, but a manual review is way better than any form of automated system. To combat brigading, the mod team could issue temporary suspensions if that's deemed to be the case, and full bans if the behavior is repeated. It would be quite expensive for YouTube to do that, so it's not happening. Best we're getting is some automated nonsense, probably based on AI. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Neato@ttrpg.network 12 points 2 years ago And Youtube will 100% allow creators to hide notes, as well. Corporations will not allow themselves to be criticized on their own pages. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 9point6@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) I value my mental health too much to regularly dive into the YouTube comment section permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I must be watching different videos than the people complaining about YouTube comments. The ones I see are virtually all positive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago Don't just look at the comments. Look at the replies to the top comments. 8 out of 10 times they turn super toxic super quickly in my experience. permalink fedilink source parent [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) ? They absolutely are... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Abnorc@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] generic_computers@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) So the upvotes and downvotes in the comments don't do anything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Probably not. Or maybe every vote counts as "engagement" and pushes it to the top. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 30 points 2 years ago (9 children) Can the channel owner delete comments on their videos? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 50 points 2 years ago (7 children) Yes, as well as automatically hiding new comments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] expatriado@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (6 children) which is unfortunate, i think YT does it to save paid labor on moderating comments, but this allows video posters to upload misleading info and delete correcting replies, which also pairs well with hidden thumbs down permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@midwest.social 18 points 2 years ago (5 children) It also allows uploaders to stop hate filled posting, like incels trashing the comments on anything positive about female characters in media. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) It also allows uploaders to stoke hate with their videos and delete reasonable takes and people calling out misinformation in the comments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] snooggums@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago Which one is worse depends on the context of the video. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Honestly, I'd rather the channel have the first say here. It would be even better if some independent mod team could override channel owners though if there are enough reports. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Enough reports is how brigades are effective. There isn't a great solution that solves all the possibilities, it is a difficult problem. An independent mod team sounds great until you get into the details of how they are formed and the fact that they are people too who might miss nuance or hold their own shitty opinions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Sure, but a manual review is way better than any form of automated system. To combat brigading, the mod team could issue temporary suspensions if that's deemed to be the case, and full bans if the behavior is repeated. It would be quite expensive for YouTube to do that, so it's not happening. Best we're getting is some automated nonsense, probably based on AI. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Neato@ttrpg.network 12 points 2 years ago And Youtube will 100% allow creators to hide notes, as well. Corporations will not allow themselves to be criticized on their own pages. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 50 points 2 years ago (7 children) Yes, as well as automatically hiding new comments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] expatriado@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (6 children) which is unfortunate, i think YT does it to save paid labor on moderating comments, but this allows video posters to upload misleading info and delete correcting replies, which also pairs well with hidden thumbs down permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@midwest.social 18 points 2 years ago (5 children) It also allows uploaders to stop hate filled posting, like incels trashing the comments on anything positive about female characters in media. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) It also allows uploaders to stoke hate with their videos and delete reasonable takes and people calling out misinformation in the comments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] snooggums@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago Which one is worse depends on the context of the video. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Honestly, I'd rather the channel have the first say here. It would be even better if some independent mod team could override channel owners though if there are enough reports. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Enough reports is how brigades are effective. There isn't a great solution that solves all the possibilities, it is a difficult problem. An independent mod team sounds great until you get into the details of how they are formed and the fact that they are people too who might miss nuance or hold their own shitty opinions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Sure, but a manual review is way better than any form of automated system. To combat brigading, the mod team could issue temporary suspensions if that's deemed to be the case, and full bans if the behavior is repeated. It would be quite expensive for YouTube to do that, so it's not happening. Best we're getting is some automated nonsense, probably based on AI. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (6 children) which is unfortunate, i think YT does it to save paid labor on moderating comments, but this allows video posters to upload misleading info and delete correcting replies, which also pairs well with hidden thumbs down permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@midwest.social 18 points 2 years ago (5 children) It also allows uploaders to stop hate filled posting, like incels trashing the comments on anything positive about female characters in media. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) It also allows uploaders to stoke hate with their videos and delete reasonable takes and people calling out misinformation in the comments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] snooggums@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago Which one is worse depends on the context of the video. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Honestly, I'd rather the channel have the first say here. It would be even better if some independent mod team could override channel owners though if there are enough reports. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Enough reports is how brigades are effective. There isn't a great solution that solves all the possibilities, it is a difficult problem. An independent mod team sounds great until you get into the details of how they are formed and the fact that they are people too who might miss nuance or hold their own shitty opinions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Sure, but a manual review is way better than any form of automated system. To combat brigading, the mod team could issue temporary suspensions if that's deemed to be the case, and full bans if the behavior is repeated. It would be quite expensive for YouTube to do that, so it's not happening. Best we're getting is some automated nonsense, probably based on AI. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snooggums@midwest.social 18 points 2 years ago (5 children) It also allows uploaders to stop hate filled posting, like incels trashing the comments on anything positive about female characters in media. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) It also allows uploaders to stoke hate with their videos and delete reasonable takes and people calling out misinformation in the comments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] snooggums@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago Which one is worse depends on the context of the video. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Honestly, I'd rather the channel have the first say here. It would be even better if some independent mod team could override channel owners though if there are enough reports. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Enough reports is how brigades are effective. There isn't a great solution that solves all the possibilities, it is a difficult problem. An independent mod team sounds great until you get into the details of how they are formed and the fact that they are people too who might miss nuance or hold their own shitty opinions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Sure, but a manual review is way better than any form of automated system. To combat brigading, the mod team could issue temporary suspensions if that's deemed to be the case, and full bans if the behavior is repeated. It would be quite expensive for YouTube to do that, so it's not happening. Best we're getting is some automated nonsense, probably based on AI. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) It also allows uploaders to stoke hate with their videos and delete reasonable takes and people calling out misinformation in the comments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] snooggums@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago Which one is worse depends on the context of the video. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snooggums@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago Which one is worse depends on the context of the video. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Honestly, I'd rather the channel have the first say here. It would be even better if some independent mod team could override channel owners though if there are enough reports. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Enough reports is how brigades are effective. There isn't a great solution that solves all the possibilities, it is a difficult problem. An independent mod team sounds great until you get into the details of how they are formed and the fact that they are people too who might miss nuance or hold their own shitty opinions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Sure, but a manual review is way better than any form of automated system. To combat brigading, the mod team could issue temporary suspensions if that's deemed to be the case, and full bans if the behavior is repeated. It would be quite expensive for YouTube to do that, so it's not happening. Best we're getting is some automated nonsense, probably based on AI. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snooggums@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Enough reports is how brigades are effective. There isn't a great solution that solves all the possibilities, it is a difficult problem. An independent mod team sounds great until you get into the details of how they are formed and the fact that they are people too who might miss nuance or hold their own shitty opinions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Sure, but a manual review is way better than any form of automated system. To combat brigading, the mod team could issue temporary suspensions if that's deemed to be the case, and full bans if the behavior is repeated. It would be quite expensive for YouTube to do that, so it's not happening. Best we're getting is some automated nonsense, probably based on AI. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Sure, but a manual review is way better than any form of automated system. To combat brigading, the mod team could issue temporary suspensions if that's deemed to be the case, and full bans if the behavior is repeated. It would be quite expensive for YouTube to do that, so it's not happening. Best we're getting is some automated nonsense, probably based on AI. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 12 points 2 years ago And Youtube will 100% allow creators to hide notes, as well. Corporations will not allow themselves to be criticized on their own pages. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) I value my mental health too much to regularly dive into the YouTube comment section permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I must be watching different videos than the people complaining about YouTube comments. The ones I see are virtually all positive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago Don't just look at the comments. Look at the replies to the top comments. 8 out of 10 times they turn super toxic super quickly in my experience. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I must be watching different videos than the people complaining about YouTube comments. The ones I see are virtually all positive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago Don't just look at the comments. Look at the replies to the top comments. 8 out of 10 times they turn super toxic super quickly in my experience. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago Don't just look at the comments. Look at the replies to the top comments. 8 out of 10 times they turn super toxic super quickly in my experience. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) ? They absolutely are... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Abnorc@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] generic_computers@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) So the upvotes and downvotes in the comments don't do anything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Probably not. Or maybe every vote counts as "engagement" and pushes it to the top. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) ? They absolutely are... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Abnorc@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Abnorc@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] generic_computers@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) So the upvotes and downvotes in the comments don't do anything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Probably not. Or maybe every vote counts as "engagement" and pushes it to the top. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Probably not. Or maybe every vote counts as "engagement" and pushes it to the top. permalink fedilink source parent