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Patrick Breyer and Pirate Party lose EU Parliament seats (stackdiary.com)
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Patrick Breyer, a staunch defender of digital rights, laments the Pirate Party’s exit from the EU Parliament as a blow to online privacy.

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[–] 7 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Pull effects have never been empirically shown. You're repeating the right's talking points.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    Have they been empirically disproven?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (10 children)
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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Fair point, but that still gives me room to doubt the claim that pull factors have no impact on migration, I must appologize to my overly confidant commwnt earlier in the thread

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (8 children)

    As I said: the theory of push- and pull-factors is outdated and not really taken seriously in academics anymore. Are you claiming that you know reasons for migration better than academia?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (7 children)

    To be frank, no, I don't claim to understand migration factors better than experts.

    But if that theory is no longer seen as credible, I wonder how academia explains migration factors.

    For me it isn't good enough to just say that the theories are wrong, I need to know what factors they believe causes migration instead.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (6 children)

    The homepage I linked to earlier tries to ansewer your questions. Here's the english translation if you don't speak German.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (5 children)

    Alright, so push/pull factors does infact exist, but we don't know what they are.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    Did you read the article? O.o

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    Yes?

    It talks about how the classic push/pull factors are way less important than culture and language.

    To me, denying the push/pull concept is dumb, I'll absolutely conceede that the main push/pull factors may not be as prominant as previously suggested, but the play a part.

    The article gives examples of how people want to go to a place with very similar culture and language, and as an example of that the bring up that the vast majority of syrian refugees are housed in Turkey, not other European countries, this is only natural, Turkey is neighbouring Syria, sp naturally most refugees go there, Poland and Ukraina is a similar situation, brodering nations.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    To me, denying the push/pull concept is dumb, I'll absolutely conceede that the main push/pull factors may not be as prominant as previously suggested, but the play a part.

    This feel to me like a "feels over reals" situation.

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