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[–] [email protected] 195 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ffs

Yes change the name and iconic logo of a huge corporation, that will go over great.

If he hadn't demonstrated his incompetence earlier I'd think it was intentional.

I still think there's a bit of intent to destroy the company but it's kinda hard to tell.

[–] [email protected] 121 points 1 year ago (7 children)

There’s a woman over on Mastodon making the argument that he’s trying to destroy it so it can’t be used to organize left-leaning political action (fundraising, activism, issue messaging, etc) any longer. She makes a compelling argument.

[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't buy that. He tried to cancel the purchase. He's also losing money, and so it's definitely not a 3D chess.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Didn't Twitter almost take him to court if he didn't follow through with the purchase? I think he got caught in his over investment in Twitter last year, and rather than go through a trial with discovery (I think he NEEDED to follow through to avoid this specifically), he decided to go through with the purchase. I wonder what the hell they would have found during a trial discovery that made him sink $44B.

But what he's doing now? I don't think it's related to that. I think it might be to help manipulate stocks, as we have seen him do several months back. Maybe he thinks that destroying left-leaning political action saves him in taxes? He destroyed public transportation in California just so people would theoretically purchase more Tesla cars. Nothing is beyond being trampled by Musk if he thinks he can benefit by stumbling over the other side of the corpse.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn’t Twitter almost take him to court if he didn’t follow through with the purchase?

He is currently suing those lawyers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

On "behalf" of Twitter. What a fucking clown.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah, he was way too cavalier with the documents he signed while negotiation with Twitter. It would have cost him $1Billion to back out. But that is a bargain compared to what he had to do to come up with the $44B he paid for Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not only that, it would have been easier and cheaper to just shut the whole thing down after taking ownership. His very public (mainly by his own tweeting) stewardship of Twitter is damaging to his reputation, and the reputation of his other businesses. The reality is, he just is that dumb.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

His net worth has only gone up since he bought it, iirc. Tesla will continue to print money at least for a little while until other automakers catch up on EVs. SpaceX doesn't seem to have any viable competitors, and both sides of the aisle agree on privatizing space, so that's a big growth industry. This is the unfortunate fact of capitalism in general and late-stage capitalism in particular.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

His net worth has only gone up since he bought it, iirc

It absolutely didn't. His net worth dropped over 50% in the months following the purchase. It's back up above $200b at this point according to Forbes, but he's still down from his pre-purchase state.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

If he'd just shut it down, he probably would have been personally liable for Twitter's debt, because he didn't even try.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean it can be all of the above. Musk isn't very coherent.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

He's the consummate failson. Rich enough that he'll never actually experience any tangible negativity from his various ventures, if he has a skill, it's in self-publicity and (historically) throwing money at ventures that are already on an upward trajectory.

But I feel that all the cocaine and being surrounded by Yes Men have led to him tipping over the edge.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'd believe it if I hadn't already heard of Musk being the type to fire workers in his line of sight at pure random simply to fire someone. It apparently got so bad that aids would plan the route he would take to the meetings around having as few victims as possible out in the open.

It would be a smart move for anyone, and he is succeeding to a good extent (they'll just go elsewhere?), but I think that's just a happy accident of his. I feel like he's really just using it as a chew toy so he can feel all big and important with the headlines. If he were being journalistically gray rocked, I wonder what he'd do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

What the fuck.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The issue with that argument is... Why? He is a business man, activism generally doesn't effect him, tesla cars are generally liked by left leaning middle class, why would he spend so much money to destroy something?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

One factor is his obsession with crypto and Blockchain shit. Left-wing activism generally stands against that stuff because of the environmental impact. Additionally, right-wing political movements recently have been lowering safety standards in business. Bad for the worker, but great for the bottom line.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Perhaps capital wasn't scared of tesla-buyers.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

His ex-wife did ask him to buy and kill Twitter:

"Can you buy Twitter and then delete it, please!? xx" Riley allegedly texted Musk on March 24. "America is going INSANE."

🤷

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Is Tallulah Riley right wing? Wow.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

he bought it pretty soon after a meeting with Putin, while the Ukraine invasion was fresh and international support was rallying on Twitter. So, blackmail, bribery, buy up Twitter and immediately gut it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I unironically believe this conspiracy theory

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I've been saying the same thing in multiple Lemmy posts and on Mastodon. Twitter and Reddit were both used by progressives to organize.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I saw this article posted in another thread and it seems to explain a lot. Not sure how close it is to reality, but it looks like nostalgia is at least a partial reason for this change.

Yep. Fucking nostalgia.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It makes a lot of sense!

To err is human, repeat the mistake is foolish

Thx for sharing the article!