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Mastodon thinks Lemmy’s privacy stinks. What say you? (raddle.me)
submitted 3 years ago by to c/technology@beehaw.org
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Federated services have always had privacy issues but I expected Lemmy would have the fewest, but it's visibly worse for privacy than even Reddit.

  • Deleted comments remain on the server but hidden to non-admins, the username remains visible
  • Deleted account usernames remain visible too
  • Anything remains visible on federated servers!
  • When you delete your account, media does not get deleted on any server
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[–] 6 points 3 years ago (1 child)

And it also assumes, no one made a screenshot or used the web archive, crawled it and stored it in their own DB or any other way of copying stuff. Of course!

If you post any thing publicly on the internet, there is no way to be 100% sure it can be ever deleted again.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    That isn't what I am speaking to, and the fact someone could make a copy or it is archived somewhere doesn't make the statement that you can always remove your data from the platform true. And there is a difference between a potential copy and an original federated, indexed version.

    People need to be aware of the persistence of data, but people also have to understand the technology they are using to make their own informed decisions on how they engage.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    People need to be aware of the persistence of data, but people also have to understand the technology they are using to make their own informed decisions on how they engage.

    Exactly. Federation as well as the internet has restrictions in whether you can deleted your data. This should be known. Non federated data has the same problem, but the other way around. Someone running the site wants your stuff gone? It is now.

    I know, what you are talking about, but there are things one has to accept, this being one of them.

    the fact someone could make a copy or it is archived somewhere doesn't make the statement that you can always remove your data from the platform true.

    Why would someone think that?

    And there is a difference between a potential copy and an original federated, distributed, and indexed version.

    What is this difference? What do you think happens more often, screenshotting weird/compromizing stuff someone said or defederation?

    But there can be a way around All that and that is deleting all Content from defederated sources. Maybe someone could make an issue or implemented it themselves...

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    Why would someone think that?

    Because the comment I replied to, the actual thing I am addressing, makes an assertion that isn't entirely true and could lead someone uninformed into believing they can have their information removed platform wide.

    What is the difference?

    Not everyone is concerned with someone digging up dirt or wildly compromising material. Most people aren't special enough to be worried about that.

    Most archives won't be globally search indexed. An archive won't show up on a federated search. There is more legitimacy to a federated version over someone reposting a screenshot (at least in perception, how federated could be altered or forged is another topic).

    I also mention there are other reasons one might want to remove content. Just look at reddit right now, some may simply want to revoke support for a platform sometime in the future.

    Sure, there could be a future where this is addressed. It isn't right now.

    I don't disagree with you in the larger discussion on persistence of data. I am adding context to a scoped subtopic of it.

    I'm behind Lemmy, but I've made an informed decision on what that means for my data.

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