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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'll never understand how owning guns is normalized.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Owning a personal weapon has been a thing since humans evolved

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That's a Karl Marx idea..

Note, the idea doesn't support the idea of carry permits. Personally, dont have an issue with a hunting rifle or shotgun kept in a safe at home, but carry and especially cc permits are absolutely insane. You do not need a firearm that can be hidden for either home defence or hunting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Colt didn't call it the great equalizer for nothing. Imagine being a 90 lb woman facing rape or death by a 200 lb man. Don't think for a second anything but a gun will allow her to save herself.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pepper spray for example. Will it stop all people that would be stopped by a gun? No. But on the other side, it would lower this number at least.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, thanks for telling me that it's impossible for a violent criminal to ever threaten me in my house. Handguns are good for home defense because they are short range, and quick to aim, not because they are easy to hide.(That too, but to a lesser extent)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what the shotgun is for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you ever seen a shotgun? It's kind of hard to maneuver inside a house. They're pretty long.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If you have a home invader, it's safer to wait for them to open your bedroom door then go hunting. Hearing a shotgun get racked will likely make them shit themselves and leave anyway. Seriously, if you think there's someone in your house out to get you, the last think you want to do is turn a corner and loose an advantage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was normalized in the US because white settlers always had to be ready to commit genocide against indigenous people or put down slave revolts - that's what the 2nd amendment was really all about. In a socialist community, firearms will be necessary because there will always be nazis about (not to mention their ex-cop friends).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean those are two reasons it was kept, but there's also:

  • It's based on a historical English law
  • Wild predators
  • Police back then were sometimes days away (and still hours away today in some cases)
  • Hunting for food
  • Shooting the French
  • Shooting the Spanish
  • The revolutionists were tired of raiding garrisons every time they needed armament
  • The founding fathers wanted to keep their war ships