▲ 199 ▼ Apple introduces M4 chip (www.apple.com) submitted 2 years ago by simple@lemm.ee to c/technology@lemmy.world 99 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (14 children) One BILLION dollars for 32 gigs of ram. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago (4 children) Prices have dropped then! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) I still can't run basic ml stuff. I can't play the vast majority of video games. I have to put up with the same sentiment that Microsoft brings to their products, that you are just renting your computer from Apple. The hardware looks bad ass. Too bad its apple. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) looking forward to linux being able to run hard and solid on them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago and I do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I wouldn’t use asahi Linux on a Mac but it would be amazing on a iPad. permalink fedilink source parent [–] barsquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (8 children) Going from 1 TB to 2 TB SSD on this iPad is somehow $400? That is a clown price but it is a 50% discount on going from 512 GB to 1 TB. What the actual fuck? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (7 children) Going from 512GB to 1TB is also going from 8GB to 16GB RAM. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] barsquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That is better but I don't know if it brings it down to reality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (5 children) 8GB should like be illegal, lol. Wonder if you can upgrade it (or is it soldered) or if it's just for the landfill. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] bamboo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) All of Apple’s M series chips have the ram right on the same package as the rest of the SoC. Not upgradeable, but also much faster than traditional off-package memory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Funnily Apple marketed their slower ram as something better in the nineties when memory speed was king. Now when nobody cares about memory speed (I bet most people confound bandwith with speed, forgetting latence too) but we all like to have lots of it because we use lots of programs & apps, Apple is doing the reverse. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bamboo@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) In this case I was referring to bandwidth and latency, which on-package memory helps with. It does make a difference in memory-intensive applications, but the majority of people would never notice a difference. Also Apple will absolutely give you a ton of memory, you just have to pay for it. They offer 128GB on the MacBook Pro, and it’s unified so the GPU has full access to it, which makes it surprisingly good for running LLMs locally, for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, that's the ticket though, upgrading from 8GB to 16GB won't cost you the price of 8GB but way more. permalink fedilink source parent [–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Hahaha yeah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago (4 children) Prices have dropped then! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) I still can't run basic ml stuff. I can't play the vast majority of video games. I have to put up with the same sentiment that Microsoft brings to their products, that you are just renting your computer from Apple. The hardware looks bad ass. Too bad its apple. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) looking forward to linux being able to run hard and solid on them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago and I do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I wouldn’t use asahi Linux on a Mac but it would be amazing on a iPad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) I still can't run basic ml stuff. I can't play the vast majority of video games. I have to put up with the same sentiment that Microsoft brings to their products, that you are just renting your computer from Apple. The hardware looks bad ass. Too bad its apple. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) looking forward to linux being able to run hard and solid on them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago and I do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I wouldn’t use asahi Linux on a Mac but it would be amazing on a iPad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) looking forward to linux being able to run hard and solid on them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago and I do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I wouldn’t use asahi Linux on a Mac but it would be amazing on a iPad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I wouldn’t use asahi Linux on a Mac but it would be amazing on a iPad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (8 children) Going from 1 TB to 2 TB SSD on this iPad is somehow $400? That is a clown price but it is a 50% discount on going from 512 GB to 1 TB. What the actual fuck? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (7 children) Going from 512GB to 1TB is also going from 8GB to 16GB RAM. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] barsquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That is better but I don't know if it brings it down to reality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (5 children) 8GB should like be illegal, lol. Wonder if you can upgrade it (or is it soldered) or if it's just for the landfill. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] bamboo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) All of Apple’s M series chips have the ram right on the same package as the rest of the SoC. Not upgradeable, but also much faster than traditional off-package memory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Funnily Apple marketed their slower ram as something better in the nineties when memory speed was king. Now when nobody cares about memory speed (I bet most people confound bandwith with speed, forgetting latence too) but we all like to have lots of it because we use lots of programs & apps, Apple is doing the reverse. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bamboo@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) In this case I was referring to bandwidth and latency, which on-package memory helps with. It does make a difference in memory-intensive applications, but the majority of people would never notice a difference. Also Apple will absolutely give you a ton of memory, you just have to pay for it. They offer 128GB on the MacBook Pro, and it’s unified so the GPU has full access to it, which makes it surprisingly good for running LLMs locally, for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, that's the ticket though, upgrading from 8GB to 16GB won't cost you the price of 8GB but way more. permalink fedilink source parent [–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Hahaha yeah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (7 children) Going from 512GB to 1TB is also going from 8GB to 16GB RAM. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] barsquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That is better but I don't know if it brings it down to reality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (5 children) 8GB should like be illegal, lol. Wonder if you can upgrade it (or is it soldered) or if it's just for the landfill. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] bamboo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) All of Apple’s M series chips have the ram right on the same package as the rest of the SoC. Not upgradeable, but also much faster than traditional off-package memory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Funnily Apple marketed their slower ram as something better in the nineties when memory speed was king. Now when nobody cares about memory speed (I bet most people confound bandwith with speed, forgetting latence too) but we all like to have lots of it because we use lots of programs & apps, Apple is doing the reverse. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bamboo@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) In this case I was referring to bandwidth and latency, which on-package memory helps with. It does make a difference in memory-intensive applications, but the majority of people would never notice a difference. Also Apple will absolutely give you a ton of memory, you just have to pay for it. They offer 128GB on the MacBook Pro, and it’s unified so the GPU has full access to it, which makes it surprisingly good for running LLMs locally, for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, that's the ticket though, upgrading from 8GB to 16GB won't cost you the price of 8GB but way more. permalink fedilink source parent [–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Hahaha yeah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That is better but I don't know if it brings it down to reality. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (5 children) 8GB should like be illegal, lol. Wonder if you can upgrade it (or is it soldered) or if it's just for the landfill. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] bamboo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) All of Apple’s M series chips have the ram right on the same package as the rest of the SoC. Not upgradeable, but also much faster than traditional off-package memory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Funnily Apple marketed their slower ram as something better in the nineties when memory speed was king. Now when nobody cares about memory speed (I bet most people confound bandwith with speed, forgetting latence too) but we all like to have lots of it because we use lots of programs & apps, Apple is doing the reverse. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bamboo@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) In this case I was referring to bandwidth and latency, which on-package memory helps with. It does make a difference in memory-intensive applications, but the majority of people would never notice a difference. Also Apple will absolutely give you a ton of memory, you just have to pay for it. They offer 128GB on the MacBook Pro, and it’s unified so the GPU has full access to it, which makes it surprisingly good for running LLMs locally, for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, that's the ticket though, upgrading from 8GB to 16GB won't cost you the price of 8GB but way more. permalink fedilink source parent [–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Hahaha yeah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) All of Apple’s M series chips have the ram right on the same package as the rest of the SoC. Not upgradeable, but also much faster than traditional off-package memory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Funnily Apple marketed their slower ram as something better in the nineties when memory speed was king. Now when nobody cares about memory speed (I bet most people confound bandwith with speed, forgetting latence too) but we all like to have lots of it because we use lots of programs & apps, Apple is doing the reverse. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bamboo@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) In this case I was referring to bandwidth and latency, which on-package memory helps with. It does make a difference in memory-intensive applications, but the majority of people would never notice a difference. Also Apple will absolutely give you a ton of memory, you just have to pay for it. They offer 128GB on the MacBook Pro, and it’s unified so the GPU has full access to it, which makes it surprisingly good for running LLMs locally, for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, that's the ticket though, upgrading from 8GB to 16GB won't cost you the price of 8GB but way more. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Funnily Apple marketed their slower ram as something better in the nineties when memory speed was king. Now when nobody cares about memory speed (I bet most people confound bandwith with speed, forgetting latence too) but we all like to have lots of it because we use lots of programs & apps, Apple is doing the reverse. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bamboo@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) In this case I was referring to bandwidth and latency, which on-package memory helps with. It does make a difference in memory-intensive applications, but the majority of people would never notice a difference. Also Apple will absolutely give you a ton of memory, you just have to pay for it. They offer 128GB on the MacBook Pro, and it’s unified so the GPU has full access to it, which makes it surprisingly good for running LLMs locally, for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, that's the ticket though, upgrading from 8GB to 16GB won't cost you the price of 8GB but way more. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) In this case I was referring to bandwidth and latency, which on-package memory helps with. It does make a difference in memory-intensive applications, but the majority of people would never notice a difference. Also Apple will absolutely give you a ton of memory, you just have to pay for it. They offer 128GB on the MacBook Pro, and it’s unified so the GPU has full access to it, which makes it surprisingly good for running LLMs locally, for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, that's the ticket though, upgrading from 8GB to 16GB won't cost you the price of 8GB but way more. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, that's the ticket though, upgrading from 8GB to 16GB won't cost you the price of 8GB but way more. permalink fedilink source parent