▲ 397 ▼ Google engineers want to introduce DRMs for web pages, making ad-blocking near-impossible in the browser (github.com) submitted 3 years ago* by CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml [M] to c/degoogle@lemmy.ml 52 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blackeco.com/post/25574 And since you won't be able to modify web pages, it will also mean the end of customization, either for looks (ie. DarkReader, Stylus), conveniance (ie. Tampermonkey) or accessibility. The community feedback is... interesting to say the least. It does seem that using Chrome (or Chrome based browsers) is just going to going to perpetuate this. Firefox has never been more important IMHO.
[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 29 points 3 years ago (8 children) Firefox is faster than Chrome as of the latest builds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 5 points 3 years ago (6 children) Never had any issues with speed of any browser, so I don't really get that - bloated mostly in the the sense of UI. But it's also been I think some years since I tried, maybe it's time to try it out again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml [S] 7 points 3 years ago (3 children) Bloated is a weird nebulous term. Chrome is bloated because of telemetry. Bloat generally means things in the software that are not needy. I think clunky is the term you're looking for. I cannot think of what it has in the UI that isn't needed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) It's a complete subjective feeling, I switched to chrome because it felt lighter and was easier to synch over several devices. Just checked FF out and it looks very different to the last time I saw it, so I will try it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml [S] 7 points 3 years ago* Good luck. Credit to you for trying again :). There is FF sync where you can sync between devices easier also. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago If you haven't tried in recent years, I'd suggest doing it again. Just as chrome has significantly increased in size and resource usage from its days of advertising how quick and light it is (it didn't stop advertising those points for no reason), Firefox has improved dramatically. I forget what post I was on but someone said there's always someone who badmouths Firefox simply because they haven't tried it recently. It really is true. Tech evolves so quickly these days, there's no reason to not give it a shot again. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pedro@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago Wans't there a huge speed difference on the Google websites with Firefox at some point? I've always used Firefox and will never go to chrome but damn YouTube/maps/... feel slow on Firefox I'm sure it's not intentional /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago I felt the same way a while back but the updated version is worth trying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Virkkunen@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* On synthetic tests on Windows 10/11, sure, but on real world usage it's quite clear the Firefox is on the slow end of the stick, on Windows, Mac, Linux and specially Android permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 5 points 3 years ago (6 children) Never had any issues with speed of any browser, so I don't really get that - bloated mostly in the the sense of UI. But it's also been I think some years since I tried, maybe it's time to try it out again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml [S] 7 points 3 years ago (3 children) Bloated is a weird nebulous term. Chrome is bloated because of telemetry. Bloat generally means things in the software that are not needy. I think clunky is the term you're looking for. I cannot think of what it has in the UI that isn't needed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) It's a complete subjective feeling, I switched to chrome because it felt lighter and was easier to synch over several devices. Just checked FF out and it looks very different to the last time I saw it, so I will try it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml [S] 7 points 3 years ago* Good luck. Credit to you for trying again :). There is FF sync where you can sync between devices easier also. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago If you haven't tried in recent years, I'd suggest doing it again. Just as chrome has significantly increased in size and resource usage from its days of advertising how quick and light it is (it didn't stop advertising those points for no reason), Firefox has improved dramatically. I forget what post I was on but someone said there's always someone who badmouths Firefox simply because they haven't tried it recently. It really is true. Tech evolves so quickly these days, there's no reason to not give it a shot again. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pedro@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago Wans't there a huge speed difference on the Google websites with Firefox at some point? I've always used Firefox and will never go to chrome but damn YouTube/maps/... feel slow on Firefox I'm sure it's not intentional /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago I felt the same way a while back but the updated version is worth trying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml [S] 7 points 3 years ago (3 children) Bloated is a weird nebulous term. Chrome is bloated because of telemetry. Bloat generally means things in the software that are not needy. I think clunky is the term you're looking for. I cannot think of what it has in the UI that isn't needed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) It's a complete subjective feeling, I switched to chrome because it felt lighter and was easier to synch over several devices. Just checked FF out and it looks very different to the last time I saw it, so I will try it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml [S] 7 points 3 years ago* Good luck. Credit to you for trying again :). There is FF sync where you can sync between devices easier also. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago If you haven't tried in recent years, I'd suggest doing it again. Just as chrome has significantly increased in size and resource usage from its days of advertising how quick and light it is (it didn't stop advertising those points for no reason), Firefox has improved dramatically. I forget what post I was on but someone said there's always someone who badmouths Firefox simply because they haven't tried it recently. It really is true. Tech evolves so quickly these days, there's no reason to not give it a shot again. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) It's a complete subjective feeling, I switched to chrome because it felt lighter and was easier to synch over several devices. Just checked FF out and it looks very different to the last time I saw it, so I will try it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml [S] 7 points 3 years ago* Good luck. Credit to you for trying again :). There is FF sync where you can sync between devices easier also. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago If you haven't tried in recent years, I'd suggest doing it again. Just as chrome has significantly increased in size and resource usage from its days of advertising how quick and light it is (it didn't stop advertising those points for no reason), Firefox has improved dramatically. I forget what post I was on but someone said there's always someone who badmouths Firefox simply because they haven't tried it recently. It really is true. Tech evolves so quickly these days, there's no reason to not give it a shot again. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml [S] 7 points 3 years ago* Good luck. Credit to you for trying again :). There is FF sync where you can sync between devices easier also. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago If you haven't tried in recent years, I'd suggest doing it again. Just as chrome has significantly increased in size and resource usage from its days of advertising how quick and light it is (it didn't stop advertising those points for no reason), Firefox has improved dramatically. I forget what post I was on but someone said there's always someone who badmouths Firefox simply because they haven't tried it recently. It really is true. Tech evolves so quickly these days, there's no reason to not give it a shot again. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pedro@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago Wans't there a huge speed difference on the Google websites with Firefox at some point? I've always used Firefox and will never go to chrome but damn YouTube/maps/... feel slow on Firefox I'm sure it's not intentional /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago I felt the same way a while back but the updated version is worth trying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Virkkunen@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* On synthetic tests on Windows 10/11, sure, but on real world usage it's quite clear the Firefox is on the slow end of the stick, on Windows, Mac, Linux and specially Android permalink fedilink source parent