▲ 63 ▼ Anon doesn't like any web browsers (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by RedditEnjoyer@lemmy.world to c/4chan@lemmy.world 49 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 2 years ago (19 children) Imagine still using Brave in current year. permalink fedilink source hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago Brendan Eich is a piece of shit permalink fedilink source parent [+] TotalSonic@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (17 children) Show me another browser that can fully pass the EFF's and other privacy tests, and I will switch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 years ago (14 children) Never heard of that before so just tried it with Fennec (Firefox fork) and got this result: Then downloaded Brave and got this result: permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (13 children) This is what I get on a degoogled Android 13 custom ROM. What OS/device are you using? Did you opt out of sending stats to Brave when you installed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) I'm on the latest GrapheneOS (sounds like you are too) and yes I opted out of both checkboxes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* I am using SparkOS on this device. My usual daily driver running Android 14 uses degoogled BlissROM and gets the same results, but I just borked it testing the latest alpha version for the maintainer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I am guessing you are using uBlock Origin or similar with Fenec, as I just get "partial protection" in the EFF test unless that extension is installed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago Ah looks like I am, yeah. Should I need to turn some setting on in Brave to get the same result? permalink fedilink source parent [–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (8 children) Sounds like its not a very reliable way to gauge privacy, then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (7 children) The EFF is very good at what they do, and I've found it to be reliable, based on auditing traffic with tools like TrackerControl and AppManager as well. There is also resources noting test results such as https://privacytests.org permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (6 children) Either way, looks like we found that other browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's the second test a browser needs to pass for me - no embedded tracker libraries. Fennec fails on that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Embedded trackers Brave: 0 Fennec: 3 permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Here you can see that Fennec tried to "phone home" to Mozilla when I launched it permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) This is the result of the default install of Fennec - it needs the user to install an extension to get ad and tracker blocking like you have permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago That's the same as the default result for Brave on my system too though. What were the other tests you ran, I'm curious how Brave will come out there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Not quite for me - Fennec (at least the build from F-droid) does not randomize fingerprint, AppManager and TrackerControl both show it has embedded trackers sending telemetry to Mozilla, and Fennec is not available on desktop. Librewolf is hardened Firefox on desktop, and is very good though, and has the trackers going back to Mozilla removed, but it does not randomize fingerprint. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Librewolf + arkenfox user.js maximum security profile will pass EFF and about every other test you could think of. The real problem is that security comes with cost to convinence. Multi session cookies and site history suck for security but are really convinent tools for browsing the modern internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I like Librewolf a lot, and do use it sometimes on desktop, but they do not offer a mobile version, and there have been a few web pages I have found it was not compatible with. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago Brendan Eich is a piece of shit permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TotalSonic@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (17 children) Show me another browser that can fully pass the EFF's and other privacy tests, and I will switch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 years ago (14 children) Never heard of that before so just tried it with Fennec (Firefox fork) and got this result: Then downloaded Brave and got this result: permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (13 children) This is what I get on a degoogled Android 13 custom ROM. What OS/device are you using? Did you opt out of sending stats to Brave when you installed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) I'm on the latest GrapheneOS (sounds like you are too) and yes I opted out of both checkboxes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* I am using SparkOS on this device. My usual daily driver running Android 14 uses degoogled BlissROM and gets the same results, but I just borked it testing the latest alpha version for the maintainer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I am guessing you are using uBlock Origin or similar with Fenec, as I just get "partial protection" in the EFF test unless that extension is installed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago Ah looks like I am, yeah. Should I need to turn some setting on in Brave to get the same result? permalink fedilink source parent [–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (8 children) Sounds like its not a very reliable way to gauge privacy, then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (7 children) The EFF is very good at what they do, and I've found it to be reliable, based on auditing traffic with tools like TrackerControl and AppManager as well. There is also resources noting test results such as https://privacytests.org permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (6 children) Either way, looks like we found that other browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's the second test a browser needs to pass for me - no embedded tracker libraries. Fennec fails on that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Embedded trackers Brave: 0 Fennec: 3 permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Here you can see that Fennec tried to "phone home" to Mozilla when I launched it permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) This is the result of the default install of Fennec - it needs the user to install an extension to get ad and tracker blocking like you have permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago That's the same as the default result for Brave on my system too though. What were the other tests you ran, I'm curious how Brave will come out there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Not quite for me - Fennec (at least the build from F-droid) does not randomize fingerprint, AppManager and TrackerControl both show it has embedded trackers sending telemetry to Mozilla, and Fennec is not available on desktop. Librewolf is hardened Firefox on desktop, and is very good though, and has the trackers going back to Mozilla removed, but it does not randomize fingerprint. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Librewolf + arkenfox user.js maximum security profile will pass EFF and about every other test you could think of. The real problem is that security comes with cost to convinence. Multi session cookies and site history suck for security but are really convinent tools for browsing the modern internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I like Librewolf a lot, and do use it sometimes on desktop, but they do not offer a mobile version, and there have been a few web pages I have found it was not compatible with. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 years ago (14 children) Never heard of that before so just tried it with Fennec (Firefox fork) and got this result: Then downloaded Brave and got this result: permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (13 children) This is what I get on a degoogled Android 13 custom ROM. What OS/device are you using? Did you opt out of sending stats to Brave when you installed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) I'm on the latest GrapheneOS (sounds like you are too) and yes I opted out of both checkboxes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* I am using SparkOS on this device. My usual daily driver running Android 14 uses degoogled BlissROM and gets the same results, but I just borked it testing the latest alpha version for the maintainer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I am guessing you are using uBlock Origin or similar with Fenec, as I just get "partial protection" in the EFF test unless that extension is installed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago Ah looks like I am, yeah. Should I need to turn some setting on in Brave to get the same result? permalink fedilink source parent [–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (8 children) Sounds like its not a very reliable way to gauge privacy, then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (7 children) The EFF is very good at what they do, and I've found it to be reliable, based on auditing traffic with tools like TrackerControl and AppManager as well. There is also resources noting test results such as https://privacytests.org permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (6 children) Either way, looks like we found that other browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's the second test a browser needs to pass for me - no embedded tracker libraries. Fennec fails on that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Embedded trackers Brave: 0 Fennec: 3 permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Here you can see that Fennec tried to "phone home" to Mozilla when I launched it permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) This is the result of the default install of Fennec - it needs the user to install an extension to get ad and tracker blocking like you have permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago That's the same as the default result for Brave on my system too though. What were the other tests you ran, I'm curious how Brave will come out there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Not quite for me - Fennec (at least the build from F-droid) does not randomize fingerprint, AppManager and TrackerControl both show it has embedded trackers sending telemetry to Mozilla, and Fennec is not available on desktop. Librewolf is hardened Firefox on desktop, and is very good though, and has the trackers going back to Mozilla removed, but it does not randomize fingerprint. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (13 children) This is what I get on a degoogled Android 13 custom ROM. What OS/device are you using? Did you opt out of sending stats to Brave when you installed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) I'm on the latest GrapheneOS (sounds like you are too) and yes I opted out of both checkboxes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* I am using SparkOS on this device. My usual daily driver running Android 14 uses degoogled BlissROM and gets the same results, but I just borked it testing the latest alpha version for the maintainer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I am guessing you are using uBlock Origin or similar with Fenec, as I just get "partial protection" in the EFF test unless that extension is installed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago Ah looks like I am, yeah. Should I need to turn some setting on in Brave to get the same result? permalink fedilink source parent [–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (8 children) Sounds like its not a very reliable way to gauge privacy, then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (7 children) The EFF is very good at what they do, and I've found it to be reliable, based on auditing traffic with tools like TrackerControl and AppManager as well. There is also resources noting test results such as https://privacytests.org permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (6 children) Either way, looks like we found that other browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's the second test a browser needs to pass for me - no embedded tracker libraries. Fennec fails on that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Embedded trackers Brave: 0 Fennec: 3 permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Here you can see that Fennec tried to "phone home" to Mozilla when I launched it permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) This is the result of the default install of Fennec - it needs the user to install an extension to get ad and tracker blocking like you have permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago That's the same as the default result for Brave on my system too though. What were the other tests you ran, I'm curious how Brave will come out there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Not quite for me - Fennec (at least the build from F-droid) does not randomize fingerprint, AppManager and TrackerControl both show it has embedded trackers sending telemetry to Mozilla, and Fennec is not available on desktop. Librewolf is hardened Firefox on desktop, and is very good though, and has the trackers going back to Mozilla removed, but it does not randomize fingerprint. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) I'm on the latest GrapheneOS (sounds like you are too) and yes I opted out of both checkboxes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* I am using SparkOS on this device. My usual daily driver running Android 14 uses degoogled BlissROM and gets the same results, but I just borked it testing the latest alpha version for the maintainer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I am guessing you are using uBlock Origin or similar with Fenec, as I just get "partial protection" in the EFF test unless that extension is installed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago Ah looks like I am, yeah. Should I need to turn some setting on in Brave to get the same result? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* I am using SparkOS on this device. My usual daily driver running Android 14 uses degoogled BlissROM and gets the same results, but I just borked it testing the latest alpha version for the maintainer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I am guessing you are using uBlock Origin or similar with Fenec, as I just get "partial protection" in the EFF test unless that extension is installed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago Ah looks like I am, yeah. Should I need to turn some setting on in Brave to get the same result? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago Ah looks like I am, yeah. Should I need to turn some setting on in Brave to get the same result? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (8 children) Sounds like its not a very reliable way to gauge privacy, then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (7 children) The EFF is very good at what they do, and I've found it to be reliable, based on auditing traffic with tools like TrackerControl and AppManager as well. There is also resources noting test results such as https://privacytests.org permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (6 children) Either way, looks like we found that other browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's the second test a browser needs to pass for me - no embedded tracker libraries. Fennec fails on that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Embedded trackers Brave: 0 Fennec: 3 permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Here you can see that Fennec tried to "phone home" to Mozilla when I launched it permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) This is the result of the default install of Fennec - it needs the user to install an extension to get ad and tracker blocking like you have permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago That's the same as the default result for Brave on my system too though. What were the other tests you ran, I'm curious how Brave will come out there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Not quite for me - Fennec (at least the build from F-droid) does not randomize fingerprint, AppManager and TrackerControl both show it has embedded trackers sending telemetry to Mozilla, and Fennec is not available on desktop. Librewolf is hardened Firefox on desktop, and is very good though, and has the trackers going back to Mozilla removed, but it does not randomize fingerprint. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (7 children) The EFF is very good at what they do, and I've found it to be reliable, based on auditing traffic with tools like TrackerControl and AppManager as well. There is also resources noting test results such as https://privacytests.org permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (6 children) Either way, looks like we found that other browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's the second test a browser needs to pass for me - no embedded tracker libraries. Fennec fails on that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Embedded trackers Brave: 0 Fennec: 3 permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Here you can see that Fennec tried to "phone home" to Mozilla when I launched it permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) This is the result of the default install of Fennec - it needs the user to install an extension to get ad and tracker blocking like you have permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago That's the same as the default result for Brave on my system too though. What were the other tests you ran, I'm curious how Brave will come out there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Not quite for me - Fennec (at least the build from F-droid) does not randomize fingerprint, AppManager and TrackerControl both show it has embedded trackers sending telemetry to Mozilla, and Fennec is not available on desktop. Librewolf is hardened Firefox on desktop, and is very good though, and has the trackers going back to Mozilla removed, but it does not randomize fingerprint. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (6 children) Either way, looks like we found that other browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's the second test a browser needs to pass for me - no embedded tracker libraries. Fennec fails on that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Embedded trackers Brave: 0 Fennec: 3 permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Here you can see that Fennec tried to "phone home" to Mozilla when I launched it permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) This is the result of the default install of Fennec - it needs the user to install an extension to get ad and tracker blocking like you have permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago That's the same as the default result for Brave on my system too though. What were the other tests you ran, I'm curious how Brave will come out there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Not quite for me - Fennec (at least the build from F-droid) does not randomize fingerprint, AppManager and TrackerControl both show it has embedded trackers sending telemetry to Mozilla, and Fennec is not available on desktop. Librewolf is hardened Firefox on desktop, and is very good though, and has the trackers going back to Mozilla removed, but it does not randomize fingerprint. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago So that's the second test a browser needs to pass for me - no embedded tracker libraries. Fennec fails on that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Embedded trackers Brave: 0 Fennec: 3 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Here you can see that Fennec tried to "phone home" to Mozilla when I launched it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) This is the result of the default install of Fennec - it needs the user to install an extension to get ad and tracker blocking like you have permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago That's the same as the default result for Brave on my system too though. What were the other tests you ran, I'm curious how Brave will come out there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago That's the same as the default result for Brave on my system too though. What were the other tests you ran, I'm curious how Brave will come out there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Not quite for me - Fennec (at least the build from F-droid) does not randomize fingerprint, AppManager and TrackerControl both show it has embedded trackers sending telemetry to Mozilla, and Fennec is not available on desktop. Librewolf is hardened Firefox on desktop, and is very good though, and has the trackers going back to Mozilla removed, but it does not randomize fingerprint. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Librewolf + arkenfox user.js maximum security profile will pass EFF and about every other test you could think of. The real problem is that security comes with cost to convinence. Multi session cookies and site history suck for security but are really convinent tools for browsing the modern internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I like Librewolf a lot, and do use it sometimes on desktop, but they do not offer a mobile version, and there have been a few web pages I have found it was not compatible with. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I like Librewolf a lot, and do use it sometimes on desktop, but they do not offer a mobile version, and there have been a few web pages I have found it was not compatible with. permalink fedilink source parent