▲ 546 ▼ How surprising (thelemmy.club) submitted 2 years ago by FrenchThrowAway@jlai.lu to c/dunememes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago (14 children) The planet is actually made of psychedelics, not stimulants. permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] SingularEye@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 2 years ago (9 children) spice is both. it also lets you see the future, bend spacetime, and recover the memories of your ancestors. Among other things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] shneancy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago psychedelics also "let you" do it (and by that i mean make you feel like you can) permalink fedilink source parent [–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (7 children) It only lets you bend spacetime in the David Lynch movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] FrenchThrowAway@jlai.lu [S] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's explicitly described as allowing spacetime bending in the books, maybe Villeneuve will talk more about it in the nexr movies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* Spacefolder ships use the Holtzman effect to bend spacetime. Computers were used to find safe routes before the Butlerian Jihad. Without computers, guild navigators use their prescience to find safe routes. Spice doesn’t allow spacetime bending, just navigating through bent spacetime without a high fatality rate from flying into stars. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago* If you watch really closely in Dune P1, you can see another planet (presumably Selusa Secundus) through the center of the navigator ship. I don't know how it functions mechanically in his version, if they're navigating wormholes somehow or controlling them, but they have some form of wormhole mechanism shown in the series. Edit: The image embed didn't seem to work, so here's the link to the image. https://www.reddit.com/r/dune/s/pSBHvR3Ser permalink fedilink source parent [–] SingularEye@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) have you read the book? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) All of Frank’s several times each. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SingularEye@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) so what are the navigators doing then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Literally navigating. It’s apparently hard to travel long distances that way without running into stars and whatnot. They used to use computers to chart safe courses. Then after the butlerian jihad, most long distance travel stopped due to the high rate of “oops”. It only resumed when the guild was able to use prescience to know which routes wouldn’t result in everyone dying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FrenchThrowAway@jlai.lu [S] 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Spice is much more than a psychedelic or a stimulant, I would say it's more like if an Adderall pill and a microdosed LSD stamp had a kid permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) It also extends your life and does all sorts of other things. It's safe to say, it's one hell of a drug. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 years ago Ah, like cocaine. I get the resemblance now! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kyatto@leminal.space 1 point 2 years ago ahh yes, amphetamine/dextroamphetamine/Lysergic-acid-diethylamide XR 50-10-2mg permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SingularEye@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 2 years ago (9 children) spice is both. it also lets you see the future, bend spacetime, and recover the memories of your ancestors. Among other things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] shneancy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago psychedelics also "let you" do it (and by that i mean make you feel like you can) permalink fedilink source parent [–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (7 children) It only lets you bend spacetime in the David Lynch movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] FrenchThrowAway@jlai.lu [S] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's explicitly described as allowing spacetime bending in the books, maybe Villeneuve will talk more about it in the nexr movies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* Spacefolder ships use the Holtzman effect to bend spacetime. Computers were used to find safe routes before the Butlerian Jihad. Without computers, guild navigators use their prescience to find safe routes. Spice doesn’t allow spacetime bending, just navigating through bent spacetime without a high fatality rate from flying into stars. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago* If you watch really closely in Dune P1, you can see another planet (presumably Selusa Secundus) through the center of the navigator ship. I don't know how it functions mechanically in his version, if they're navigating wormholes somehow or controlling them, but they have some form of wormhole mechanism shown in the series. Edit: The image embed didn't seem to work, so here's the link to the image. https://www.reddit.com/r/dune/s/pSBHvR3Ser permalink fedilink source parent [–] SingularEye@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) have you read the book? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) All of Frank’s several times each. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SingularEye@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) so what are the navigators doing then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Literally navigating. It’s apparently hard to travel long distances that way without running into stars and whatnot. They used to use computers to chart safe courses. Then after the butlerian jihad, most long distance travel stopped due to the high rate of “oops”. It only resumed when the guild was able to use prescience to know which routes wouldn’t result in everyone dying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago psychedelics also "let you" do it (and by that i mean make you feel like you can) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (7 children) It only lets you bend spacetime in the David Lynch movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] FrenchThrowAway@jlai.lu [S] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's explicitly described as allowing spacetime bending in the books, maybe Villeneuve will talk more about it in the nexr movies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* Spacefolder ships use the Holtzman effect to bend spacetime. Computers were used to find safe routes before the Butlerian Jihad. Without computers, guild navigators use their prescience to find safe routes. Spice doesn’t allow spacetime bending, just navigating through bent spacetime without a high fatality rate from flying into stars. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago* If you watch really closely in Dune P1, you can see another planet (presumably Selusa Secundus) through the center of the navigator ship. I don't know how it functions mechanically in his version, if they're navigating wormholes somehow or controlling them, but they have some form of wormhole mechanism shown in the series. Edit: The image embed didn't seem to work, so here's the link to the image. https://www.reddit.com/r/dune/s/pSBHvR3Ser permalink fedilink source parent [–] SingularEye@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) have you read the book? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) All of Frank’s several times each. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SingularEye@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) so what are the navigators doing then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Literally navigating. It’s apparently hard to travel long distances that way without running into stars and whatnot. They used to use computers to chart safe courses. Then after the butlerian jihad, most long distance travel stopped due to the high rate of “oops”. It only resumed when the guild was able to use prescience to know which routes wouldn’t result in everyone dying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FrenchThrowAway@jlai.lu [S] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's explicitly described as allowing spacetime bending in the books, maybe Villeneuve will talk more about it in the nexr movies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* Spacefolder ships use the Holtzman effect to bend spacetime. Computers were used to find safe routes before the Butlerian Jihad. Without computers, guild navigators use their prescience to find safe routes. Spice doesn’t allow spacetime bending, just navigating through bent spacetime without a high fatality rate from flying into stars. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago* If you watch really closely in Dune P1, you can see another planet (presumably Selusa Secundus) through the center of the navigator ship. I don't know how it functions mechanically in his version, if they're navigating wormholes somehow or controlling them, but they have some form of wormhole mechanism shown in the series. Edit: The image embed didn't seem to work, so here's the link to the image. https://www.reddit.com/r/dune/s/pSBHvR3Ser permalink fedilink source parent
[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* Spacefolder ships use the Holtzman effect to bend spacetime. Computers were used to find safe routes before the Butlerian Jihad. Without computers, guild navigators use their prescience to find safe routes. Spice doesn’t allow spacetime bending, just navigating through bent spacetime without a high fatality rate from flying into stars. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago* If you watch really closely in Dune P1, you can see another planet (presumably Selusa Secundus) through the center of the navigator ship. I don't know how it functions mechanically in his version, if they're navigating wormholes somehow or controlling them, but they have some form of wormhole mechanism shown in the series. Edit: The image embed didn't seem to work, so here's the link to the image. https://www.reddit.com/r/dune/s/pSBHvR3Ser permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SingularEye@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) have you read the book? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) All of Frank’s several times each. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SingularEye@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) so what are the navigators doing then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Literally navigating. It’s apparently hard to travel long distances that way without running into stars and whatnot. They used to use computers to chart safe courses. Then after the butlerian jihad, most long distance travel stopped due to the high rate of “oops”. It only resumed when the guild was able to use prescience to know which routes wouldn’t result in everyone dying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) All of Frank’s several times each. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SingularEye@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) so what are the navigators doing then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Literally navigating. It’s apparently hard to travel long distances that way without running into stars and whatnot. They used to use computers to chart safe courses. Then after the butlerian jihad, most long distance travel stopped due to the high rate of “oops”. It only resumed when the guild was able to use prescience to know which routes wouldn’t result in everyone dying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SingularEye@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) so what are the navigators doing then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Literally navigating. It’s apparently hard to travel long distances that way without running into stars and whatnot. They used to use computers to chart safe courses. Then after the butlerian jihad, most long distance travel stopped due to the high rate of “oops”. It only resumed when the guild was able to use prescience to know which routes wouldn’t result in everyone dying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Literally navigating. It’s apparently hard to travel long distances that way without running into stars and whatnot. They used to use computers to chart safe courses. Then after the butlerian jihad, most long distance travel stopped due to the high rate of “oops”. It only resumed when the guild was able to use prescience to know which routes wouldn’t result in everyone dying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FrenchThrowAway@jlai.lu [S] 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Spice is much more than a psychedelic or a stimulant, I would say it's more like if an Adderall pill and a microdosed LSD stamp had a kid permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) It also extends your life and does all sorts of other things. It's safe to say, it's one hell of a drug. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 years ago Ah, like cocaine. I get the resemblance now! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kyatto@leminal.space 1 point 2 years ago ahh yes, amphetamine/dextroamphetamine/Lysergic-acid-diethylamide XR 50-10-2mg permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) It also extends your life and does all sorts of other things. It's safe to say, it's one hell of a drug. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 years ago Ah, like cocaine. I get the resemblance now! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 years ago Ah, like cocaine. I get the resemblance now! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kyatto@leminal.space 1 point 2 years ago ahh yes, amphetamine/dextroamphetamine/Lysergic-acid-diethylamide XR 50-10-2mg permalink fedilink source parent