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[+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world [S] 76 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's massive student protests for Palestine going on at American universities right now. The universities are calling in the police to arrest their students. Some have locked down their universities and moved to online-only lessons to ignore the protests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gigan@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (3 children) Why do they care so much about the protests that they are having the students arrested? I don't get it. Just let them protest permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Protest is generly seen as criminal or crime adjascent behaviour in the US in my experience. The average person is unable to see the bigger picture that protest slot into and even in cases like this where nobody is inconvenienced somebody or some institution will cry about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Yep. A lot of people are uninformed and see protest as a disruption. Most people, even educated have tunnel vision sometimes. The people that get the big picture are empathetic or considerate and usually the ones who protest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] uis@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Protest is generly seen as criminal or crime adjascent behaviour in the US in my experience. US is not a freedom country, it is religious country. France is freedom country. "Liberté, égalité, fraternité". permalink fedilink source parent [–] absentbird@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* I guess the graduation ceremony is coming up or something. At least that's the excuse I heard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] theparadox@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Students are walking out of class and "occupying" spaces, joined by non-campus outsiders sometimes. Police are calling it trespassing and arresting them if they don't disperse. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 years ago (2 children) Students once again standing up for a populace having war brought to them courtesy of the US of A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* The Land of the Free* * Unless you disagree with the mainstream narrative, in which case you should not be free. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (3 children) "Courtesy of th US of A" is more anti-US fluff than bare truth. Netanyahu and those of power in Isreal are due far more credit. Everyone involved is shite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, political officials are enabling it. The majority of Americans do not support it, myself included. My initial point is that pointing the big fat finger at the US, while not mentioning the people LITERALLY killing eachother, is typical anti-US fluff. I get fed up with people doing that, even if I detest our involvement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) My gripe comes from that first part, where the latter I agree with. The countries at war are to blame moreso than the enablers and profiteers ...Technically. I am not saying the US is innocent... but this isn't the US "doing it" we're aiding a crooked ally. I've read comments so often that seem to wholly blame the US. We're a super easy target to criticize, thus my calling the first statement anti-US fluff. Even if I'm arguing semantics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could not CONTINUE, maybe... it's fucked that we provide any support. We aren't the only supporter here either, and I won't agree with "this is ALL America's fault!" like you're saying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) We deserve plenty of credit and i think passing it off as fluff is pretty disheartening to be frank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) What about this whole debacle ISN'T disheartening? Blaming the US, pointedly, for something we're involved in IS moreso fluff... believe it or not, Isreal and Palestine are to blame. All other actors are just playing the same fucking role, as always, in the ever grinding meat-wheel of warfare. There are no "heartening" tales from this. I would LOVE to see the US have no involvement, for a change, but that's not how "allies" work. Geopolitical fuckery will ever stand in the way of true peaceful avoidance for any country tied to ones at war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you hadn't said "finanacing and enabling ALL of it", I'd agree. We aren't the country to bear the crux on all of this, even if we are playing second-banana. Palestinian extremists did a fucking awful thing, and then Israeli officials made it, somehow, worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, we are not. Yes, we have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Woozythebear@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Without our funding they couldn't do what they are doing. We are paying for the genocide. Take that shit somewhere else you liberal nazi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Liberal Nazi? The fuck are you smoking? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Woozythebear@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago Cut a liberal and a nazi bleeds permalink fedilink source parent [+] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Woozythebear@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh shut the fuck up, you don't know shit about China and they have nothing to do with this. They actually support Palestinians unlike genocide Joe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world [S] 76 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's massive student protests for Palestine going on at American universities right now. The universities are calling in the police to arrest their students. Some have locked down their universities and moved to online-only lessons to ignore the protests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gigan@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (3 children) Why do they care so much about the protests that they are having the students arrested? I don't get it. Just let them protest permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Protest is generly seen as criminal or crime adjascent behaviour in the US in my experience. The average person is unable to see the bigger picture that protest slot into and even in cases like this where nobody is inconvenienced somebody or some institution will cry about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Yep. A lot of people are uninformed and see protest as a disruption. Most people, even educated have tunnel vision sometimes. The people that get the big picture are empathetic or considerate and usually the ones who protest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] uis@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Protest is generly seen as criminal or crime adjascent behaviour in the US in my experience. US is not a freedom country, it is religious country. France is freedom country. "Liberté, égalité, fraternité". permalink fedilink source parent [–] absentbird@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* I guess the graduation ceremony is coming up or something. At least that's the excuse I heard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] theparadox@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Students are walking out of class and "occupying" spaces, joined by non-campus outsiders sometimes. Police are calling it trespassing and arresting them if they don't disperse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (3 children) Why do they care so much about the protests that they are having the students arrested? I don't get it. Just let them protest permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Protest is generly seen as criminal or crime adjascent behaviour in the US in my experience. The average person is unable to see the bigger picture that protest slot into and even in cases like this where nobody is inconvenienced somebody or some institution will cry about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Yep. A lot of people are uninformed and see protest as a disruption. Most people, even educated have tunnel vision sometimes. The people that get the big picture are empathetic or considerate and usually the ones who protest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] uis@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Protest is generly seen as criminal or crime adjascent behaviour in the US in my experience. US is not a freedom country, it is religious country. France is freedom country. "Liberté, égalité, fraternité". permalink fedilink source parent [–] absentbird@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* I guess the graduation ceremony is coming up or something. At least that's the excuse I heard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] theparadox@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Students are walking out of class and "occupying" spaces, joined by non-campus outsiders sometimes. Police are calling it trespassing and arresting them if they don't disperse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Protest is generly seen as criminal or crime adjascent behaviour in the US in my experience. The average person is unable to see the bigger picture that protest slot into and even in cases like this where nobody is inconvenienced somebody or some institution will cry about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Yep. A lot of people are uninformed and see protest as a disruption. Most people, even educated have tunnel vision sometimes. The people that get the big picture are empathetic or considerate and usually the ones who protest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] uis@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Protest is generly seen as criminal or crime adjascent behaviour in the US in my experience. US is not a freedom country, it is religious country. France is freedom country. "Liberté, égalité, fraternité". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Yep. A lot of people are uninformed and see protest as a disruption. Most people, even educated have tunnel vision sometimes. The people that get the big picture are empathetic or considerate and usually the ones who protest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] uis@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Protest is generly seen as criminal or crime adjascent behaviour in the US in my experience. US is not a freedom country, it is religious country. France is freedom country. "Liberté, égalité, fraternité". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* I guess the graduation ceremony is coming up or something. At least that's the excuse I heard. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Students are walking out of class and "occupying" spaces, joined by non-campus outsiders sometimes. Police are calling it trespassing and arresting them if they don't disperse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 years ago (2 children) Students once again standing up for a populace having war brought to them courtesy of the US of A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* The Land of the Free* * Unless you disagree with the mainstream narrative, in which case you should not be free. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (3 children) "Courtesy of th US of A" is more anti-US fluff than bare truth. Netanyahu and those of power in Isreal are due far more credit. Everyone involved is shite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, political officials are enabling it. The majority of Americans do not support it, myself included. My initial point is that pointing the big fat finger at the US, while not mentioning the people LITERALLY killing eachother, is typical anti-US fluff. I get fed up with people doing that, even if I detest our involvement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) My gripe comes from that first part, where the latter I agree with. The countries at war are to blame moreso than the enablers and profiteers ...Technically. I am not saying the US is innocent... but this isn't the US "doing it" we're aiding a crooked ally. I've read comments so often that seem to wholly blame the US. We're a super easy target to criticize, thus my calling the first statement anti-US fluff. Even if I'm arguing semantics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could not CONTINUE, maybe... it's fucked that we provide any support. We aren't the only supporter here either, and I won't agree with "this is ALL America's fault!" like you're saying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) We deserve plenty of credit and i think passing it off as fluff is pretty disheartening to be frank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) What about this whole debacle ISN'T disheartening? Blaming the US, pointedly, for something we're involved in IS moreso fluff... believe it or not, Isreal and Palestine are to blame. All other actors are just playing the same fucking role, as always, in the ever grinding meat-wheel of warfare. There are no "heartening" tales from this. I would LOVE to see the US have no involvement, for a change, but that's not how "allies" work. Geopolitical fuckery will ever stand in the way of true peaceful avoidance for any country tied to ones at war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you hadn't said "finanacing and enabling ALL of it", I'd agree. We aren't the country to bear the crux on all of this, even if we are playing second-banana. Palestinian extremists did a fucking awful thing, and then Israeli officials made it, somehow, worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, we are not. Yes, we have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Woozythebear@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Without our funding they couldn't do what they are doing. We are paying for the genocide. Take that shit somewhere else you liberal nazi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Liberal Nazi? The fuck are you smoking? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Woozythebear@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago Cut a liberal and a nazi bleeds permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* The Land of the Free* * Unless you disagree with the mainstream narrative, in which case you should not be free. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (3 children) "Courtesy of th US of A" is more anti-US fluff than bare truth. Netanyahu and those of power in Isreal are due far more credit. Everyone involved is shite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, political officials are enabling it. The majority of Americans do not support it, myself included. My initial point is that pointing the big fat finger at the US, while not mentioning the people LITERALLY killing eachother, is typical anti-US fluff. I get fed up with people doing that, even if I detest our involvement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) My gripe comes from that first part, where the latter I agree with. The countries at war are to blame moreso than the enablers and profiteers ...Technically. I am not saying the US is innocent... but this isn't the US "doing it" we're aiding a crooked ally. I've read comments so often that seem to wholly blame the US. We're a super easy target to criticize, thus my calling the first statement anti-US fluff. Even if I'm arguing semantics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could not CONTINUE, maybe... it's fucked that we provide any support. We aren't the only supporter here either, and I won't agree with "this is ALL America's fault!" like you're saying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) We deserve plenty of credit and i think passing it off as fluff is pretty disheartening to be frank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) What about this whole debacle ISN'T disheartening? Blaming the US, pointedly, for something we're involved in IS moreso fluff... believe it or not, Isreal and Palestine are to blame. All other actors are just playing the same fucking role, as always, in the ever grinding meat-wheel of warfare. There are no "heartening" tales from this. I would LOVE to see the US have no involvement, for a change, but that's not how "allies" work. Geopolitical fuckery will ever stand in the way of true peaceful avoidance for any country tied to ones at war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you hadn't said "finanacing and enabling ALL of it", I'd agree. We aren't the country to bear the crux on all of this, even if we are playing second-banana. Palestinian extremists did a fucking awful thing, and then Israeli officials made it, somehow, worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, we are not. Yes, we have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Woozythebear@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Without our funding they couldn't do what they are doing. We are paying for the genocide. Take that shit somewhere else you liberal nazi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Liberal Nazi? The fuck are you smoking? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Woozythebear@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago Cut a liberal and a nazi bleeds permalink fedilink source parent
[+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, political officials are enabling it. The majority of Americans do not support it, myself included. My initial point is that pointing the big fat finger at the US, while not mentioning the people LITERALLY killing eachother, is typical anti-US fluff. I get fed up with people doing that, even if I detest our involvement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) My gripe comes from that first part, where the latter I agree with. The countries at war are to blame moreso than the enablers and profiteers ...Technically. I am not saying the US is innocent... but this isn't the US "doing it" we're aiding a crooked ally. I've read comments so often that seem to wholly blame the US. We're a super easy target to criticize, thus my calling the first statement anti-US fluff. Even if I'm arguing semantics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could not CONTINUE, maybe... it's fucked that we provide any support. We aren't the only supporter here either, and I won't agree with "this is ALL America's fault!" like you're saying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, political officials are enabling it. The majority of Americans do not support it, myself included. My initial point is that pointing the big fat finger at the US, while not mentioning the people LITERALLY killing eachother, is typical anti-US fluff. I get fed up with people doing that, even if I detest our involvement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) My gripe comes from that first part, where the latter I agree with. The countries at war are to blame moreso than the enablers and profiteers ...Technically. I am not saying the US is innocent... but this isn't the US "doing it" we're aiding a crooked ally. I've read comments so often that seem to wholly blame the US. We're a super easy target to criticize, thus my calling the first statement anti-US fluff. Even if I'm arguing semantics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could not CONTINUE, maybe... it's fucked that we provide any support. We aren't the only supporter here either, and I won't agree with "this is ALL America's fault!" like you're saying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) My gripe comes from that first part, where the latter I agree with. The countries at war are to blame moreso than the enablers and profiteers ...Technically. I am not saying the US is innocent... but this isn't the US "doing it" we're aiding a crooked ally. I've read comments so often that seem to wholly blame the US. We're a super easy target to criticize, thus my calling the first statement anti-US fluff. Even if I'm arguing semantics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could not CONTINUE, maybe... it's fucked that we provide any support. We aren't the only supporter here either, and I won't agree with "this is ALL America's fault!" like you're saying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) My gripe comes from that first part, where the latter I agree with. The countries at war are to blame moreso than the enablers and profiteers ...Technically. I am not saying the US is innocent... but this isn't the US "doing it" we're aiding a crooked ally. I've read comments so often that seem to wholly blame the US. We're a super easy target to criticize, thus my calling the first statement anti-US fluff. Even if I'm arguing semantics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could not CONTINUE, maybe... it's fucked that we provide any support. We aren't the only supporter here either, and I won't agree with "this is ALL America's fault!" like you're saying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could not CONTINUE, maybe... it's fucked that we provide any support. We aren't the only supporter here either, and I won't agree with "this is ALL America's fault!" like you're saying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could not CONTINUE, maybe... it's fucked that we provide any support. We aren't the only supporter here either, and I won't agree with "this is ALL America's fault!" like you're saying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) We deserve plenty of credit and i think passing it off as fluff is pretty disheartening to be frank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) What about this whole debacle ISN'T disheartening? Blaming the US, pointedly, for something we're involved in IS moreso fluff... believe it or not, Isreal and Palestine are to blame. All other actors are just playing the same fucking role, as always, in the ever grinding meat-wheel of warfare. There are no "heartening" tales from this. I would LOVE to see the US have no involvement, for a change, but that's not how "allies" work. Geopolitical fuckery will ever stand in the way of true peaceful avoidance for any country tied to ones at war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you hadn't said "finanacing and enabling ALL of it", I'd agree. We aren't the country to bear the crux on all of this, even if we are playing second-banana. Palestinian extremists did a fucking awful thing, and then Israeli officials made it, somehow, worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, we are not. Yes, we have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) What about this whole debacle ISN'T disheartening? Blaming the US, pointedly, for something we're involved in IS moreso fluff... believe it or not, Isreal and Palestine are to blame. All other actors are just playing the same fucking role, as always, in the ever grinding meat-wheel of warfare. There are no "heartening" tales from this. I would LOVE to see the US have no involvement, for a change, but that's not how "allies" work. Geopolitical fuckery will ever stand in the way of true peaceful avoidance for any country tied to ones at war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you hadn't said "finanacing and enabling ALL of it", I'd agree. We aren't the country to bear the crux on all of this, even if we are playing second-banana. Palestinian extremists did a fucking awful thing, and then Israeli officials made it, somehow, worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, we are not. Yes, we have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you hadn't said "finanacing and enabling ALL of it", I'd agree. We aren't the country to bear the crux on all of this, even if we are playing second-banana. Palestinian extremists did a fucking awful thing, and then Israeli officials made it, somehow, worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, we are not. Yes, we have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you hadn't said "finanacing and enabling ALL of it", I'd agree. We aren't the country to bear the crux on all of this, even if we are playing second-banana. Palestinian extremists did a fucking awful thing, and then Israeli officials made it, somehow, worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, we are not. Yes, we have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, we are not. Yes, we have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, we are not. Yes, we have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[+] Woozythebear@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Without our funding they couldn't do what they are doing. We are paying for the genocide. Take that shit somewhere else you liberal nazi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Liberal Nazi? The fuck are you smoking? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Woozythebear@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago Cut a liberal and a nazi bleeds permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Liberal Nazi? The fuck are you smoking? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Woozythebear@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago Cut a liberal and a nazi bleeds permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Woozythebear@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago Cut a liberal and a nazi bleeds permalink fedilink source parent
[+] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Woozythebear@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh shut the fuck up, you don't know shit about China and they have nothing to do with this. They actually support Palestinians unlike genocide Joe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Woozythebear@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh shut the fuck up, you don't know shit about China and they have nothing to do with this. They actually support Palestinians unlike genocide Joe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
