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[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) What principle would lead someone to support segregation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) In Rand's father's case? Libertarian nonsense about not being forced by the big bad government to stop with the 'whites only' bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Ah. Free association is what it'd be called by libertarians. I see what you mean now. Was he against government-forced segregation? I'm kind of bad in these situations (from a libertarian perspective) because I tend to refuse to worry about things I like the outcome of. If you and I had incredibly similar views on how people should behave, and we both put time and money into achieving those outcomes, but I didn't support using violence (libertarian reductionist view of government), does that mean I support things I'm ostensibly fighting personally? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (2 children) He would have opposed the Civil Rights Act "because of the property rights element." See? Principled stand. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/91287-paul-says-he-would-have-opposed-1964-civil-rights-act/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm talking pure theory/ethics now. What I'd support politically will vary. I agree with free association and, to some degree, property rights. I don't think my "yeah, fuck racists" stance is principled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Okay, but we aren't talking about you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) In Rand's father's case? Libertarian nonsense about not being forced by the big bad government to stop with the 'whites only' bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Ah. Free association is what it'd be called by libertarians. I see what you mean now. Was he against government-forced segregation? I'm kind of bad in these situations (from a libertarian perspective) because I tend to refuse to worry about things I like the outcome of. If you and I had incredibly similar views on how people should behave, and we both put time and money into achieving those outcomes, but I didn't support using violence (libertarian reductionist view of government), does that mean I support things I'm ostensibly fighting personally? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (2 children) He would have opposed the Civil Rights Act "because of the property rights element." See? Principled stand. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/91287-paul-says-he-would-have-opposed-1964-civil-rights-act/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm talking pure theory/ethics now. What I'd support politically will vary. I agree with free association and, to some degree, property rights. I don't think my "yeah, fuck racists" stance is principled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Okay, but we aren't talking about you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Ah. Free association is what it'd be called by libertarians. I see what you mean now. Was he against government-forced segregation? I'm kind of bad in these situations (from a libertarian perspective) because I tend to refuse to worry about things I like the outcome of. If you and I had incredibly similar views on how people should behave, and we both put time and money into achieving those outcomes, but I didn't support using violence (libertarian reductionist view of government), does that mean I support things I'm ostensibly fighting personally? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (2 children) He would have opposed the Civil Rights Act "because of the property rights element." See? Principled stand. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/91287-paul-says-he-would-have-opposed-1964-civil-rights-act/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm talking pure theory/ethics now. What I'd support politically will vary. I agree with free association and, to some degree, property rights. I don't think my "yeah, fuck racists" stance is principled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Okay, but we aren't talking about you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (2 children) He would have opposed the Civil Rights Act "because of the property rights element." See? Principled stand. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/91287-paul-says-he-would-have-opposed-1964-civil-rights-act/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm talking pure theory/ethics now. What I'd support politically will vary. I agree with free association and, to some degree, property rights. I don't think my "yeah, fuck racists" stance is principled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Okay, but we aren't talking about you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm talking pure theory/ethics now. What I'd support politically will vary. I agree with free association and, to some degree, property rights. I don't think my "yeah, fuck racists" stance is principled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Okay, but we aren't talking about you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Okay, but we aren't talking about you. permalink fedilink source parent