when i see people talking bout their antisemitic/nazi/4chan phases like its a normal part of adolescence
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Like even if I gave them the benefit of analyzing the conditions that lead to them having those views as adolocents (learned from parents, peers, just society in general, poor material conditions, etc.) the fact that at the drop of a hat they'll revert to those views or try and tell off the legitimate concerns from POC over someone's problematic views makes me think that they haven't really completely gotten rid of that part of themselves. White privilege really is alive and well among these people.
I feel the same when I see someone talking about how they used to be in the USAmerican military
guys we have a cracker actully saying they went from wanting to be a concentration camp guard to a communist in a month, and using this to defend tailism, and crackers are defending them
doing my best to stay calm.
Complete fucking meltdown by a large number of crackers on here (and other sites) over a fucking act of adventurism all because they want free healthcare in the imperial core. So many asses out on display.
a certain mod really should be removed at this point
oh 100% anyone defending this in the mod chat shouldnt be there...
TBH a couple of mods need to be removed. My account was about a week old and I made the mistake of disagreeing with a mod about home invasions and maybe not shooting people right away who enter your home. Mod deleted not only my comments towards them, but also comments elsewhere in the thread (including me shitting on Clinton) and an unrelated thread about making a YouTube block list.
Same mod works at a prison lmao
Edit: the mod is a teacher at a prison and made a thread about it months ago. Said how bad they felt because no one cares about the prisoners. So during this discussion, I thought maybe they'd have some empathy with burglars or even people confusedly entering the wrong home. I was temp banned before I could point out this person would have shot those same people they teach.
I dunno. Maybe I was in the wrong and was projecting anger towards settlers. I did go full meme mode after losing my patience, which probably didn't help. You can find the thread if you look at my post history because it's the only "deleted by moderator" comments.
ok guys the crackers on hexbear are doing to much now, i was hootin and hollering like everyone else having a grand ole time, and now i see some of them ACTULLY want to make this guy a hero or a figure head....
I think when I wake up in the morning I'll make an effort post on chapo or whatever about this. Leftists fell for the same shit in the 1920s through the 40s and Hitler talked about how easy it was to lure them in several times.
Apparently whites here on hexbear.net need a reminder of how things went down, if they learned it at all in the first place. Then there's Daryl Davis having supposedly "reforming" KKK members, who use him as a screen and call him the n-word behind his back.
While it is possible to rehabilitate reactionaries, it takes time and effort. Sometimes it takes years. Unlearning bigotry (especially racism, sexism, and queerphobia) is a lot like learning a new language. Unless you're immersed in it, you are going to struggle. Learning is immediately undone the second you leave the classroom and enter back right into your native language. People on this Norwegian owl fencing website don't seem to get it.
They'll have to excuse me if I'm not lining up to worship at the alter of a guy who is most likely a Yarvin follower and throws out racist dogwhistle like DEI. You can be glad the CEO is dead, hell shit post about the luigi guy in ironic ways ...but I saw someone calling this praxis like.... Huh? Reel it in
the responses to that mod thread have me screaming. hexbear users love an opportunity for tailism i guess
I'm too tired to participate in these now but the white people on Hexbear seriously need to interrogate what it means to make sacrifices to support marginalized people in their communities
i.e even small sacrifices like giving up a parasocial relationship with some guy that believes in the great replacement
If they can't be relied upon to do this how are they going to act when allies are needed to make greater sacrifices?
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For real. When I posted in the mod announcement thread I made sure to make it clear that I just wanted people to be smarter about how they are approaching this whole situation and not to make it about celebrating this guy until we know that he doesn't still hold these racist/xenophobic views. It still got someone agitated enough to have a whole debate about it.
I should have known better because as soon as I started seeing people talking about how "beautiful" it was to see the left and right come together it should have indicated just how much shit they were willing to accept even if it meant waving off the concerns of the empoc userbase here (and possibly IRL too, with how some people were talking in that thread, which is what matters most)
until we know that he doesn't still hold these racist/xenophobic views.
That's my exact sentiment as well, it shouldn't be difficult. If he doesn't do this then the propaganda in his propaganda of the deed is obviously fascist.
On the debater, if a marginalized person has to beat an "ally" in an argument to get them to listen, that person is not being an ally. Marginalized people should not have to defend themselves against allies.
And from a site that rightly looks up to Leslie Feinberg these people are not practicing any of the humility that Feinberg had when working with any marginalized people.
This entire week is just vindicating that one org that caused a string of white tantrums on Hexbear over the org waitlisting white people from formally joining the org (i.e receiving full privileges and decision making power) until more POC were recruited to maintain the leadership of the most marginalized.
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Please help Aya in Gaza ❤️ 🇵🇸
https://gofund.me/1222af19
Please help Mahmoud from Gaza ❤️ 🇵🇸
https://gofund.me/5156f6e9
https://www.gofundme.com/f/getting-food-for-my-brothers
https://www.gofundme.com/f/younis-family-relief-and-evacuation-from-gaza
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-yamen-undergo-surgery-in-gaza
(work in progress 🚧)
hwite anglo hexbears are gonna turn me into an c/em_poc only browser.
But my reactionary twink is cuuuuuute, we can allow just few threats towards black folks for that right?
Hexbears out here unironically posting "This is why we're losing the propaganda war" to ppl saying they're uncomfortable with HB cheering on this dude uncritically (while tacking on a meaningless "critical support" they're not actually practicing) in the face of the guy's same old white american man built in settler racism we've seen for centuries
Motherfuckers, this is the exact same shit as "the left is losing white men". Y'all really are western leftist crackers to the core, its the same story every time seems like
For every infinitely rare Luigi that kills the "right" person, there are a gigantic and far greater number of Luigis who have the same exact views and point their guns down the social ladder.
Having a white hexbear who has never experienced racism understand that is too much to bear.
why is “he was 23” the go-to hexbear defense lol, do hexbears think 23 year olds aren’t capable of critical thinking or something. i’m 20 and you won’t find me “accidentally” liking race science on the internet
23 year olds aren’t capable of critical thinking
laughs in Fred Hampton
Some ppl actually using "he's only 26" as an excuse, where's the fuckin cutoff lmao
apparently if you’re under 30 you are a chud by default
If youre white at any age youre just a innocent little baby who lacks agency :(
I remember being 23 once and I never had such fucked up views like the Italian while struggling with almost every facet of life (financially, socially, and mentally to start). The defence via "the person was x years old so how was the person supposed to have critical thinking ability?" is so fucking tiresome and really makes me wonder if this is some anglo white thing.
Also my main problem with that take is that there is 0 evidence that the dude stopped being a chud, and all points out that he is still a chud
“of course all americans are reactionary! look at me, my entire friend circle is reactionary, that proves it” — average white hexbear user
Breaking news: I saw the terms klansmasc and klansfemme for white people who use their transness as a shield against racism accusations
I’m learning a lot about American racism from my American relatives staying over. It’s so bad they discriminate based on hair. Constantly ranting about dreadlocks and hate their own curls so much they take the extra step to either straighten them out or cut them short before they can really show.
when i was 17 i had box braids and my boss called me the preditor and tried to make my coworkers call me it too. when i was 19 my black boss forced me to cover my natural hair because it was "unprofessional" I had negative money at this time so I just had to throw a beanie over it.
CW mention of sex
To the people who are still defending that Italian-American chud:
A friendly reminder that Native Americans in the US don’t get tax exemptions unless they live on the reservation and that’s only because they’re considered citizens of the tribal nation they reside in.
Hate hearing people talk about how their nonexistent indigenous ancestor (who was more likely black or mixed) means they can apply and get easy citizenship. Blood quantum’s are some bullshit forced on the tribes by the US and not every tribe does it.
Also people with indigenous ancestry from the Americas like mestizos aren’t Native American based on the US governments legal definition.