Oh God he should have looked how she was as defence minister in Germany before suggesting this π
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As if competency is anything to consider with these figurehead positions. All that matters is how well-connected they are and how willing they are to whore their office out for the Military Industrial Complex.
Exactly. Merit is irrelevant once they're in to these positions.
Ensuring Europes continued reliance on US defense by undermining NATOs capabilities tobbecome a self reliant organization.
Here you heard it first!
She sucked in every position. Defence, family or her undemocratic way to brussles.
Oh god, please no
No! Not Flinten-Uschi!
Good time to be McKinsey I guess ...
That is actually very diplomatic. It would convince the Russians and the Chinese that NATO is really not a threat. On the other hand, it would really not be a threat anymore.
NATO chief is an irrelevant position with zero power. Frankly when she was Dutch Minister of defense she had way more effect on NATO capabilities.
German Minister of Defense. Source: Me, I had to suffer the news about her.
Right, my bad.
So after being German minister of defense she went on to be minister of defense for The Netherlands?
Not gonna lie, that's kinda impressive
Considering that the EPP might get a full majority with the far right in the next European election I don't think this is good news. For the ones complaining about von der Leyen just look to the rest of EPP, Manfred Webber for starts, everyone looks so much worse... better to keep Ursula.
The world is doomed when Ursula is the best choice, but you are not wrong.
At the commission she did a good job with the vaccines and supporting Ukraine. I actually think she was not a bad president of the commission, considering her background and her predecessors, she was definetely an upgrade. Remember Barroso? Juncker?
If you don't want an EPP president than better to start voting S&D parties now :P but I think it's unavoidable that the next one will also be an EPP person, they control most govs, so better if it's Ursula.
That said, Roberta #Metsola sounds to be available, maybe she wouldn't be a bad option.. if Ursula does go to NATO.
The person who did deals with Pfizer over SMSs?
So you can fail upward!
Well at least her old Nickname of Flintenuschi (Rifle Uschi) can make a comeback than
I much prefer "Truppen-Ursel" ("Troops Ursel" I guess)
Letβs just vote for someone else, ignore the vote and make her NATO Chief insteadβ¦
Typical EPP move.
I really hate that they did that, cause the whole Spitzenkandidat process really seemed like a great way to get people to pay more attention to EU politics and the EU parliament.
This is not confirmed yet. And anyway, can you imagine Manfred Webber president of the commission? It would have been so much worse. I'm in favor of the Spitzenkandidat if we get transnational lists and parties running with their European affiliation on the ballot.
Do you think France or any of the others would agree to another German after Ursula? Thereβll be cries of Germany running the EU
Can you elaborate on what is not confirmed yet?
Manfred Weber would have been a bad choice, but Von der Leyens election was not very democratic
Oh my god! No, just no!
Lol. At least this wouldn't be a fail upwards.
And who should be head of EU council?
Her term is over next year, so that fits. Might even be the primary reason they extended Stoltenberg for one year.
What the fuck. Will it ever stop?
Once they're on the gravy train good luck getting them off it.
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