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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/15197917
I've never figure out how these people are expected to pull themselves out of their situation. Drug use is merely a symptom, the cause is living conditions and an existence that makes being sober untenable.
"Get a job"? Find a job that will hire anyone on the spot, AND that can pay for an actual place to live.
My brother said the same thing. "He can go get a job at McDonalds."
Ok, do you think McDs wants to hire someone who hasn't bathed recently? How will he eat after work if he hasn't been panhandling during the day? What happens between now and his first paycheck? What if he doesn't have a bank account when that arrives?
It's as if getting a job doesn't immediately cure your problems. My brother sorta seemed to be persuaded in that he didn't push the idea any further.
Sorry that was for the other guy
A significant number of homeless in CA and WA have at least 1 job as far as I know.
Fast food workers make up 6% of the CA homeless population, for example.
they are expected to not exist because they are an eyesore and reminder of human fragility.
nobody cares about them 'pulling themselves out of their situation'
Implemented by folks who surely call themselves good Christians. Boy, Jesus sure would be proud.
If only they cracked down on real estate / investment industry the same way. What a fucked up world.
It’s funny because I thought that’s the group of people that says you can’t just ban something because people will just do it anyway. But they banned homelessness and pretend the problem is solved.
The irony that they talk so much about their rights while they are obsessed with taking mine away.
John 11:35
I've been saying this forever, homeless folks need to learn how to levitate so they're just in the air. Or will the government ban that, too?
The government will get the FAA involved at that point.
No levitation in public spaces!
Between migrant workers needing to go anywhere else (namely Florida to Martha's Vinyard), college protersters needing to be sent to Gaza, and now homeless (its not unhoused, thats newspeak. Its Sexual Assault not SA, its Murder/Suicide not Unaliving, its homeless, not unhoused) needing to be sent anywhere else, all I can fixate on is how obsessed The Party is with making people move (you can say "Its Republicans doing that!" but its not. Its the entirety of the Federal government advancing these narratives).
The modern strategy of the rich and the taint-lickers (government officials) is forced nomad lifestyle.
This is NOTHING new.
Strikes a nerve for me because I'm a quarter Gypsy (hailing from Bohemia, the region now called the Czech Republic). Gypsy is an EXTREMELY offensive term. In the Holocaust, "Jews" took the brunt, "Gypsies" took most of the rest, "Gays" and "Colored" took the rest.
Gypsies are kind of like Jews.
"Jews" in the largest sense, are those who were expelled from their homes and settled in a new home, all the adversity endured, as is depicted by Moses moving the Jews from Egypt to Bethlehem.
"Gypsies" are those who were expelled from their homes, and were met with gun-barrels wherever they went, so they were kept moving. Forced nomads.
Which makes me look at the news today. "Anti-Zionist" as in "against Israel displacing Palestinians with plans of luxury condos" is now called "Antisemitic". But if we go to the historical root of the words, Israel is acting like Egypt, and Palestinians are being made Jews, if you remove the religion "Judaism" from the mix.
And here in America, as the people identify as Anti-Zionist, but Palestinians are being displaced from their homes by Israel, arguably making them "Palestinian Jews" or "Palestinian Gypsies" depending on how the world treats their refugees, one of the big things the Supreme Court decided was that Homeless are Gypsies.
Send em packing. Shoot one of em dead, and that's cool as long as they keep moving. Over time, we will have shot all of em dead.
Where did we end up so wrong?
Oh ya, Citizens United.
Boy, I bet many people are going to comment on this that either A) don't live in an affected city, or B) didn't bother reading the article and seeing the nuance in the situation.
Having read the article, the post captures the essence quite well. Cities are criminalising homelessness, often illegally.
Okay big boy, please share the nuance of how homeless people chose that condition in life, and how a ban does ANYTHING other than try to export "undesirables" ala the GOP sending migrants to Martha's Vineyard?
I think you are projecting a viewpoint on to my words that I didn't assert. Did I say, or even imply, that I am for or against these bans? I stated I believe that people that comment on this will probably have less information than necessary to make a reasonable argument.
You are implying that you're for the bans, or at the very least, that they're reasonable because of some nuance. You literally do that again here in this comment:
people that comment on this will probably have less information than necessary to make a reasonable argument.
The default conclusion that most will have is that banning homeless people is a really shitty thing to do. What extra info do we need to reasonably come to the conclusion? Where's the nuance? I even went and read the first half or so and skimmed the rest(because it seemed repetitive and is more lengthy than I wanted to read) but there's nothing there that even attempted to change my mind.
Fair...
You still haven't shared your expert nuance after reading a pretty cut and dry article.
NIMBY people usually stay quiet, and are commonly the largest group of people with the power to change laws like these.