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[–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (13 children)

Am I crazy or does this situation feel incredibly overblown? At the end of the day, it was two players talking shit, and it seems like people are making it out like some incredibly violent interaction occurred.

Also, maybe people in this sub haven't gotten over the Messi vs Ronaldo bullshit, but it was Rodrygo talking shit after the Argentinian national team to their credit tried deescalating the situation. Then they lost the fucking game to Argentina. I fail to see how this situation is embarrassing to Messi in any way. Unless you think Messi is some morally-just angel with the temperament of a preschool teacher, his response seems pretty normal in comparison to other players

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (7 children)

    Unless you think Messi is some morally-just angel with the temperament of a preschool teacher

    I think most people do treat Messi that way though.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    The issue is that people just glorify these athletes. Messi is a reserved guy, not very outspoken guy, but when provoked he will attack back. Should not be shunned for it, he is still a human who is going to defend himself. Just cause the guy is quite and not assertive, doesn't mean he isn't spineless.

    Like any person, even if they are calm and relaxed nature, they will attack back at a certain point.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    Yeah, this infantilization of Leo Messi never sat right with me. Just because he is introverted doesn't mean he won't get into squabbles with opposition players at all.

    As a general statement, Rodrygo's dad is right. It's just that context doesn't make the statement look great.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Lol Rodrygos dad is right ??? He literally posted this cuz his son is involved...and you wouldn't believe me...why is son is involved.... Apparently he called the captain of the opposition team coward for not playing a football match cuz people from his country were getting beat up with batons... I mean who even priorities stupid lives of people over a football match... Definitely right dad..

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago

    No they don't. Everyone can recognize he's a good guy off the pitch and very reserved. On the pitch no one has ever claimed Messi to be a morally just angel. He has been hot headed on the pitch on several occasions in the last years and I haven't seen anyone deny it

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    The game was bad, they lose, brasilian police repressing argentians, rodrygo calling coward a team that tried to deescalate the situation and defend the safety of the public... They have to shift the conversation somehow

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (6 children)

    Go look at the tales on r/realnadrid. Take a hazmat suit with you.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    And none of them see how cringey it is that a player’s father posts shit like this on Instagram like a wittle baby.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (5 children)

    Oh yeah rodrygo suffered racism from half the argentinian population and it is just overblown

    cmon just because it is messi you guys are going to ignore what is happening here?

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Was Messi racist? Is he culpable for the actions of his countrymen?

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    he is conivent, he never speaks agains racism, even when his country always does this shit

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago

    I mean that had nothing to do with Messi though? Messi didn’t make any racist comments, Messi didn’t ask people to be racist, Messi stood up for his team that’s it.. What the rest of Argentina does isn’t his responsibility right? Why would you blame the captain of the football team for the country to be racist? As for Messi himself I’m pretty sure him and Neymar were as close as brothers, clearly not something you’d see a racist do

    And Rodrygo literally started this cause Messi went onto lead his team in protest against their people being beaten up? Did you even see the bleeding guy’s images?

    Those racist comments are wrong on so many different levels, but that is not Messi’s fault, in the issue between Rodrygo and Messi, any non biased guy knows it was just Rodrygo being a brat

    A 19 year old tennis player or NBA player simply cannot go talk shit to Federer/ LeBron, that’s just being a dick to a legend

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Did you visit the Real Madrid sub recently? Rodrigo getting racial comments has nothing to do with Messi yet everyone is talking shit about messi there, it’s like they couldn’t care less about Rodrigo they just got a reason to hate on messi again. Racism - bad. Rodrigo calling the argentine team “cowards” because they refused to play while the police were beating their fans in the stands - also bad. Both can be bad, no one is justifying racism nor is anyone saying he deserves it

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Definitely overblown, but definitely overlooking the full context of the situation. Rodrygo got racially abused, which has been the hot topic of football, especially since he plays along side Vinicius, so people will focus on that more. Dont get me wrong, under no circumstances does Rodrygo deserve to get racial abused, however, he made himself out to be a target to the Argentine racists considering he was being completely insensitive towards the Argentina fans that were experiencing police brutality in the stands.

    Not saying it justifies racism, because it doesnt, however that was the reason he was targeted. Rodrygo was being a complete idiot in his remarks towards Messi and co.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Rodrygo isn't the first player to be racially abused by Argentina fans.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago

    I never said he was. He got majority of the racial remarks compared to Endrick, Jesus, and Gabriel.

    He put a target in his back for racists people to attack him because of what he said.

    Both actions don’t make a right nor do they justify either actions. This isn’t a black or what situation, it’s clearly grey.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Tbf I do think that anyone not named messi would have gotten a straight red for putting their hands around another player’s neck like that

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Please explain for me what actually happened. I have seen reports about crowd trouble also, is this connected?

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    It’s very connected. The Brazilian FA and/or the stadium messed up and placed the away fans right in the middle of the home crowd. A fight broke out in the stands. The Rio police went in there and started beating the Argentines bloody, even with women and kids in the line of fire. The Argentine players decided to postpone the match until the violence stopped. Rodrygo accused Messi of being a chickenshit for the delay. Messi reminded him that the last time he played in the Maracaná, Argentina won and the world champions are not afraid of anyone.

    They played, and Brazil lost. Now Rodrygo is getting hate from the usual human trash on Twitter because he turned a blind eye to police brutality and called someone else a coward for not doing so. (I think Marquinhos was the only Brazilian who tried to help, so props to him).

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