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In some of the music communities I'm in the content creators are already telling their userbase to go follow them on threads. They're all talking about some kind of beef between Elon and Mark and the possibility of a boxing match... Mark was right to call the people he's leaching off of fucking idiots.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It's a bit of a shock that simply picking an instance and signing up like any regular site is such a hurdle to so many people.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Technology is hard

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

That was not the case with lemmy. Most of the instances I tried required manual approval for signups. It took me going through like 4 different instances to find one that didn't.

To be fair, most people reccomend lemmy.world now, and that doesn't need manual approval. But there's another problem, they can't interact with Beehaw.

"Simply" picking an instance is not actually that simple. Most people just want to go to the site and sign up. Even with email, they know what Gmail and Outlook are. But on Lemmy, there's no indication of what you're supposed to pick. Even if you try to go with what seems like the "default" instance, lemmy.ml, you're met with an announcement saying not to do thaf cause it's overloaded.

People don't want to have to make decisions, especially when they don't have any information to go off of.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s the key, you have to figure out what instance is best for you. With a million choices you get choice paralysis mixed with FOMO and they just don’t bother.

IMO that’s probably the biggest problem with anything decentralized like this. The average person doesn’t care about the benefits and the above is by far a big barrier to entry.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The biggest advantage of a decentralized system is that none of the people who are unwilling to invest even the briefest amount of time into understanding something will end up using it.

Most of us don't care what the average person has to say on social media, as demonstrated by what they average person has said on social media over the past 15 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If you don’t appeal to the masses then lemmy will stay small, and pushes like threads will wipe it out in no time.

IMO that’s also mastodons biggest problem. They’re essentially trying to stay small an unsuccessful.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lemmy and Mastadon aren't at all private, by any measure. Not sure what exactly you mean now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're also not mega corps tracking and selling your every move. It's quite a bit different. What's public here is what I explicitly make public, there's no unwanted encroachment or permissions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So it's about profiting off the lack of privacy. Not the lack of privacy itself. Now I get it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, but also how they are doing it. And to who they are selling the data. Etc. Etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Best thing Lemmy signups could do is ask "What's your primary interest?" And randomly select an instance that has that category.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if I don't want to immediately pigeonhole myself into one specific niche?

As a non-LGTB / non-furry / neurotypical / multiple-interest-having / boring-ass white guy in his forties, there really isn't a sub-sub-microcommunity for me.

And picking these communities is like throwing a political sign in your front yard, saying, "HEY! I know there are some people out there who hate this stuff! Argue with me! Troll me! Make my experience here as terrible as possible!"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's a bit hyperbolic. You only do that if you join a heavily political instance or subscribe to tons of political communities. Most of the boards aren't like that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I guess lack of choice makes choosing easy—you only have one option and that's it, take it or leave it. Having to choose between vastly different options is also easy. But if you have a hundred similar, yet slightly different options to choose from, making the decision becomes psychologically hard, even if it doesn't make a difference for your UX which option you choose.