I have nothing against Signal. I just don't have access to a phone number right now. I fully intend to use the Signal when I get a number. I know there is no silver bullet, no absolutes in the privacy world but I'm looking for any messengers that are generally considered to be private and secure on Android that I can try to convince my friends and family to use. I have a mid - low threat model, it's just the thought of giving the Zuck anymore of my family's data makes my skin crawl.

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the one thing after playing with simplex, the 'no central id' is excellent for absolute privacy and they've implemented it a clever way. that id does let me resume a conversation between desktop and phone, using signal or xmpp. if it's possible with simplex i think i'd have to make a group (and that's only mobile to mobile, as simplex looks mobile-only)

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