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The hell is a non-marxist socialist
Its like saying “meat based tofu”
unscientific utopian socialism, the kind Engels is contrasting with in Socialism: Utopian and Scientific
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/soc-utop/index.htm
Arguably the most common kind of socialism in the 'west' historically. To go off of what @emizeko said, they were usually utopian socialists, particularly religious and nudist sects in the U.S., there is a whole sect of German utopians that set up around Missouri I think, but there were lots of these groups up south of Seattle, and even (famously) anarchist nudist socialists on the peninsula in Seattle.
They were non-Marxist in that they didn't subscribe to any variety of Marxist economic or geo-political thinking, and they usually are big on libertarian principles coming first.
Nudist, you say? Maybe we could learn something from these people.
Volcel Police!
Nudity is not inherently sexual. Unlearn puritan mindset.
Stop ragging on the bit and maybe I will.
Edit: Sorry that was rude. I don't think there is anything inherently sexual about nudity, I was just playing with the way it was brought up.
Frank Herbert grew up on one of those communes in Oregon.
I'm pretty sure the modern conception of socialism came out of the French Revolution and cropped up here and there in the early 19th century, and was pretty janky before people started figuring things out. More like a pre-Model T car or something. Clank clank awooga socialism
Libertarian socialism? I don't think most left-libertarians would consider themselves Marxists despite largely agreeing with his work
Basically a social democrat.