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Anyone suggest requiring all threads require mention of Taiwan is a country and Tiananmen Square massacre 1989? (kbin.social)
submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by to c/RedditMigration@kbin.social
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Seems like a win win. Reddit is fine with it and becomes a site promoting that Taiwan is a country and spreading awareness of Tiananmen Square massacre 1989. While subs return to normal.

Or reveals themselves to be the mouth piece of the CCP if they force removal of Taiwan is a country and Tiananmen Square massacre 1989.

Edit: #taiwanisacountry should be enough. That mere statement has been enough for western capitalists to quake in fear.

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[–] 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child)

The approval rating for the CCP is very high (much higher than democratic countries in the West).

First of all NEVER EVER believe that a dictatorship has a "very high approval rating". (1) the people have never approved them ever, and (2) If their approval rating really was "very high", there would be no reason at all not to allow democracy. (3) naive westerners have a long and famous history about being repeatedly conned by dictatorships.

And 2nd LOL that is obvious BS. This happened LESS THAN A YEAR AGO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_COVID-19_protests_in_China

differences between west germany / east germany v taiwan / china

Dude, I already knew all that stuff. So what? None of that is relevant to what I said. The fact remains that (1) Taiwan's government could be extremely useful in helping China convert to democracy in a stable manner, and (2) It is totally impossible for Taiwan to unify with China unless China becomes democratic like Taiwan. So since #2 is a necessity, it follow that #1 will always be a very important consideration.

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    taiwanese government could be extremely useful in helping China convert to democracy in a stable manner

    there are 10 million bureaucrats in china

    that's already half of the population of taiwan alone. the city of shanghai has a bigger population than taiwan

    So what? None of that is relevant to what I said.

    yes, it is. it's logistically impossible. i tried to elaborate on why because to hold a belief like you do someone must not know all of the obvious facts

    It is totally impossible for Taiwan to unify with China unless China becomes democratic like Taiwan

    it's very possible. it's happening right now in Hong Kong. China just takes over and slowly integrates it and removes the democracy bit by bit. I think it's so strange how you make a comment pretending reality is some way when it isn't. I get it - I support Taiwan too. I prefer Democracies over authoritarian regimes. But let's be real here

    First of all NEVER EVER believe that a dictatorship has a "very high approval rating".

    independent organizations have done studies in China. they really do support the CCP. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-government-satisfaction/

    it's sort of a side effect from the "heavenly mandate" idea in China. they've always had authoritarian leaders. as long as the economy is doing well the people tolerate anything. and china has been growing fast for decades now

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    there are 10 million bureaucrats in china

    Who can very easily take orders from Taipei

    yes, it is. it's logistically impossible.

    It's not. The PRC simply needs to apply become part of the Republic of China again. That is literally all it takes. The rest is just details.

    they really do support the CCP.

    They really do not. We've had the Covid protests, the Hong Kong protests, and the Democracy Wall protests. When the Communist dictatorship is overthrown, it will happen fast, and Taiwan's help will be needed for their expertise in democracy. Also, the current dictator is literally the very worse one since 1976.

    independent organizations have done studies in China.

    It is literally impossible for "independent organizations" to objectively "study China". But in general dictatorships NEVER have more than 15-25% or so of the population. Your stance that Chinese do not want freedom and democracy and control over their own country seems racist. Your stance that only white people want and are capable of having freedom and democracy is totally obsurd.

    it's very possible. it's happening right now in Hong Kong.

    Because Britain foolishly turned control of Hong Kong to Beijing instead of Taipei. If China tried to invade Taiwan it would result in another Ukraine situation, where the entire free world unites against the imperialist aggressors.

    I support Taiwan too. I prefer Democracies over authoritarian regimes.

    No you don't. Let's be real here. You are an apologist for the Communist tyranny. You do not understand how obvious it is but no American would ever say what you said.

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    i think you need to disconnect your ideology from the analysis. you will never see beyond your nose if you take ideology too seriously in these types of affairs

    It is literally impossible for "independent organizations" to objectively "study China".

    there have been many smarter people than you or I doing analysis of CCP approval rating and it's always much much higher than our democratic countries in the west. read the article i sent you from harvard. look up more on google. or put your fingers in your ears, close your eyes, whatever. again - doesn't change the reality of the situation

    people are pleased that their economic position is much better than their grandparents. and as long as economic growth keeps happening, that will remain true.

    No you don't. Let's be real here. You are an apologist for the Communist tyranny. You do not understand how obvious it is but no American would ever say what you said.

    i don't like to put my head in the sand and pretend like ideology trumps reality. no matter how much i prefer a free open society i have read the research. i have seen the news. i know CCP has higher approval rating than any democratic country. this isn't one or two studies. this is the consensus for decades.

    chinese people are happy with CCP. same thing with Putin in Russia. just because a country is authoritarian and brutal does not mean they cannot have high approval ratings. the difference is they are contingent on a few very important things

    china is economic growth. putin is not appearing weak - making russians feel strong. if CCP cannot guarantee that economic growth for too long a period of time, it will fall apart. they lose the "heavenly mandate"

    Your stance that only white people want and are capable of having freedom and democracy is totally obsurd.

    no it's "obsurd" that you totally ignore the opinions of 1.4 billion people in China. read some chinese history. the emperor had the mandate and everything ran smoothly or he didn't and there was civil war.

    government legitimacy means different things for different forms of government

    having said all that, you are not truly wanting to discuss geopolitics here. you want to larp and play a game of alt-history and that's fine i guess but at least put a disclaimer

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