▲ 93 ▼ NHS waiting lists: estimated 340,000 died awaiting treatment in 2022 (www.thetimes.co.uk) submitted 3 years ago by Patch@feddit.uk to c/unitedkingdom@feddit.uk 14 comments fedilink hide all child comments Paywall bypass: https://archive.is/?run=1&url=https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nhs-waiting-list-deaths-patients-hospital-doctor-appointment-2022-r7kzx6pw3
[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) Social murder permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 17 points 3 years ago* (2 children) Bearing in mind it's all a bunch private firms wearing an NHS hat, I would argue corporate murder. My dad died of legionnaires disease in an NHS hospital because G4S said it was too expensive to replace the legionnaires infested water system, or to install taps that could filter out the legionnaires. This was on a cancer ward for immunocompromised patients. This is a repeated problem at this particular hospital too. The John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxfordshire So yeah, my dad died to protect some shareholder's dividends. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JasSmith@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago That's terrible, but it's not like similar mistakes don't happen in publicly run hospitals. There doesn't appear to be clear and compelling evidence that private hospitals are any worse than public hospitals in the U.K. Studies repeatedly find mixed results at best [see citations below]. I am generally opposed to public services being privatised, but if the level of care is better for the same cost, I support it. The issue, as outlined by Kruse et al. (2018), is the incentive structure. With private hospitals responding more efficiently to financial incentives, it becomes critical that policy carefully align public health outcomes with financial incentives. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3378609/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6033142/ https://bmchealthservres.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12913-018-2953-9 permalink fedilink source parent [–] zoe@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago thats messed up. our condolences permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 17 points 3 years ago* (2 children) Bearing in mind it's all a bunch private firms wearing an NHS hat, I would argue corporate murder. My dad died of legionnaires disease in an NHS hospital because G4S said it was too expensive to replace the legionnaires infested water system, or to install taps that could filter out the legionnaires. This was on a cancer ward for immunocompromised patients. This is a repeated problem at this particular hospital too. The John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxfordshire So yeah, my dad died to protect some shareholder's dividends. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JasSmith@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago That's terrible, but it's not like similar mistakes don't happen in publicly run hospitals. There doesn't appear to be clear and compelling evidence that private hospitals are any worse than public hospitals in the U.K. Studies repeatedly find mixed results at best [see citations below]. I am generally opposed to public services being privatised, but if the level of care is better for the same cost, I support it. The issue, as outlined by Kruse et al. (2018), is the incentive structure. With private hospitals responding more efficiently to financial incentives, it becomes critical that policy carefully align public health outcomes with financial incentives. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3378609/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6033142/ https://bmchealthservres.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12913-018-2953-9 permalink fedilink source parent [–] zoe@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago thats messed up. our condolences permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago That's terrible, but it's not like similar mistakes don't happen in publicly run hospitals. There doesn't appear to be clear and compelling evidence that private hospitals are any worse than public hospitals in the U.K. Studies repeatedly find mixed results at best [see citations below]. I am generally opposed to public services being privatised, but if the level of care is better for the same cost, I support it. The issue, as outlined by Kruse et al. (2018), is the incentive structure. With private hospitals responding more efficiently to financial incentives, it becomes critical that policy carefully align public health outcomes with financial incentives. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3378609/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6033142/ https://bmchealthservres.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12913-018-2953-9 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zoe@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago thats messed up. our condolences permalink fedilink source parent