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Nintendo is being weird with their women protagonists (Invidious link) (redirect.invidious.io)
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Quite a good breakdown by Laura Kate Dale of Nintendo's handling of recent games featuring playable women characters from franchises usually headed up by men i.e. recent Peach game and upcoming Legend of Zelda game featuring the titular Zelda.

Featuring such Aonuma bangers as:

If we have Princess Zelda as the main character who fights, then what is Link going to do?

The triforce is made up of Princess Zelda, Ganon and Link. Princess Zelda is obviously female; if we made Link a female, we thought that would mess with the balance of the triforce - that's why we decided not to do it.

We feel like what takes priority is this idea of gameplay. If it turns out that particular gameplay we're trying to bring to fruition would be best served by having Zelda take that role, then it's possible that that could be a direction we could take.

i.e. Zelda has featured exclusively MANLY gameplay up to this point btw

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Nintendo... weird with women protagonists

Fire Emblem's had some fucked up shit in it, gameplay included, particularly the touchscreen "morale" system. kombucha-disgust

(CW: homophobia)

spoilerAnd I'm not letting go of that "oh no I'm a lesbian but I want to mate with senpai so you have to cure me with a potion! If you're a female character though, not interested" shit either. susie-baffled

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Anyone who's ever tried to make me play Fire Emblem is a war criminal angery

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I liked Shining Force overall, so I was curious about Fire Emblem but the games I played kept straying into royal essentialism shit and a lot of mandatory breeding as gameplay subtext which is just... ech. It's like the setting wanted to be (contextually) fanservice first and then built up a fiction and game around that.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

but the games I played kept straying into royal essentialism shit and a lot of mandatory breeding as gameplay subtext which is just... ech.

Can't believe how Just Like Me Fr Fr this is powercry-1 I fuckin kinda hate Fire Emblem tbh. Shining Force is way cooler I'm p sure.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Shining Force was a wonderful series for its time, but I'm unsure how appealing it'd be to you this many years later.

This is about as modern as the series gets, if that helps.

https://youtu.be/_900EwYcZ5s?t=7156

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wanna play the Saturn SFIII trilogy! That was a banger Majuular video.

I actually started with Sword of Hajya on the Game Gear, which was cute. I think SFII would be fun too honestly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Majuular delivers for sure.

I wish I had a Game Gear as a kid; I was in awe of it during the Game Boy era (which I also didn't have) kitty-birthday-sad

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, all of that is from Fates, which sucks pretty hard lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Suddenly so thankful I only played like ten hours of Fates. Apparently I got all I need, might still dip into Sacred Echoes (based) and Thracia.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Some of the maps on the purple version of Fates (Conquest, I think) were kinda cool, but the plot is super doo-doo.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

yea My thoughts exactly, thank u for saying

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ew, I was actually thinking of playing that at some point. Appreciate the warning

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know that isn't a deal breaker for some people, but that fanservice pandering is mandatory for optimal gameplay (and in some key moments, to progress at all) and I put it down and never came back.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I struggle to look past those kind of things, so I genuinely do appreciate it. £50 saved lol