▲ 56 ▼ Why the galactic barrier and transporters don’t match real science, and why warp drive might (www.npr.org) submitted 3 years ago by concrete_baby@sh.itjust.works to c/startrek@startrek.website 75 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (3 children) Star Trek's transporters and Stargate's Stargates are cloning devices permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) The real question is why they wouldn't use the transporter buffers effectively as backups for away teams. Have an away team member killed? No problem, rematerialize them from the buffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LibraryLass@startrek.website 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) The simplest answer would be because it doesn't ordinarily work that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well, Thomas Riker proves you can create duplicates and the doctor's daughter in Strange New Worlds as well as some other episodes prove that the patterns can be stored in the buffer for extended periods of time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LibraryLass@startrek.website 2 points 3 years ago Here's the thing: Does Tom Riker actually prove that? That's the explanation suggested in the episode, but the preponderance of information about the mechanisms of transporter technology, as given both before and after, conflicts with it. But there's another hypothesis, a simpler one, and one that we know for a fact transporters are capable of, because it's a recurring element in Star Trek: Thomas Riker is from another universe, brought to the Prime universe by similar means as many of the various visits to and from the Mirror universe. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SplatterDaddy@kolektiva.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) @taladar @dustojnikhummer Why not just let the crew member stay on the ship and just send dozens of copies of them to the planet to overwhelm any danger with sheer numbers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago Well, it makes sense to me to want to have the away mission in the memory of the crew member you retain long term unless something happened to them on the away mission. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGayTramp@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Are stargates cloning devices? Aren't they wormholes? I haven't watched a lot of SG-1 so forgive me if they covered that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ionaru@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago They frequently mention the Stargate operates using wormholes, but also that things dematerialize and get reconstructed on the other end. The iris works because it's so close to the wormhole that it doesn't leave enough room for things to be reconstructed. Also Teal'c got stuck in the Stargate "buffer" once when the power was cut prematurely from the other end. permalink fedilink source parent [+] LibraryLass@startrek.website 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) The real question is why they wouldn't use the transporter buffers effectively as backups for away teams. Have an away team member killed? No problem, rematerialize them from the buffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LibraryLass@startrek.website 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) The simplest answer would be because it doesn't ordinarily work that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well, Thomas Riker proves you can create duplicates and the doctor's daughter in Strange New Worlds as well as some other episodes prove that the patterns can be stored in the buffer for extended periods of time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LibraryLass@startrek.website 2 points 3 years ago Here's the thing: Does Tom Riker actually prove that? That's the explanation suggested in the episode, but the preponderance of information about the mechanisms of transporter technology, as given both before and after, conflicts with it. But there's another hypothesis, a simpler one, and one that we know for a fact transporters are capable of, because it's a recurring element in Star Trek: Thomas Riker is from another universe, brought to the Prime universe by similar means as many of the various visits to and from the Mirror universe. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SplatterDaddy@kolektiva.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) @taladar @dustojnikhummer Why not just let the crew member stay on the ship and just send dozens of copies of them to the planet to overwhelm any danger with sheer numbers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago Well, it makes sense to me to want to have the away mission in the memory of the crew member you retain long term unless something happened to them on the away mission. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LibraryLass@startrek.website 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) The simplest answer would be because it doesn't ordinarily work that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well, Thomas Riker proves you can create duplicates and the doctor's daughter in Strange New Worlds as well as some other episodes prove that the patterns can be stored in the buffer for extended periods of time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LibraryLass@startrek.website 2 points 3 years ago Here's the thing: Does Tom Riker actually prove that? That's the explanation suggested in the episode, but the preponderance of information about the mechanisms of transporter technology, as given both before and after, conflicts with it. But there's another hypothesis, a simpler one, and one that we know for a fact transporters are capable of, because it's a recurring element in Star Trek: Thomas Riker is from another universe, brought to the Prime universe by similar means as many of the various visits to and from the Mirror universe. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well, Thomas Riker proves you can create duplicates and the doctor's daughter in Strange New Worlds as well as some other episodes prove that the patterns can be stored in the buffer for extended periods of time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LibraryLass@startrek.website 2 points 3 years ago Here's the thing: Does Tom Riker actually prove that? That's the explanation suggested in the episode, but the preponderance of information about the mechanisms of transporter technology, as given both before and after, conflicts with it. But there's another hypothesis, a simpler one, and one that we know for a fact transporters are capable of, because it's a recurring element in Star Trek: Thomas Riker is from another universe, brought to the Prime universe by similar means as many of the various visits to and from the Mirror universe. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LibraryLass@startrek.website 2 points 3 years ago Here's the thing: Does Tom Riker actually prove that? That's the explanation suggested in the episode, but the preponderance of information about the mechanisms of transporter technology, as given both before and after, conflicts with it. But there's another hypothesis, a simpler one, and one that we know for a fact transporters are capable of, because it's a recurring element in Star Trek: Thomas Riker is from another universe, brought to the Prime universe by similar means as many of the various visits to and from the Mirror universe. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SplatterDaddy@kolektiva.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) @taladar @dustojnikhummer Why not just let the crew member stay on the ship and just send dozens of copies of them to the planet to overwhelm any danger with sheer numbers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago Well, it makes sense to me to want to have the away mission in the memory of the crew member you retain long term unless something happened to them on the away mission. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago Well, it makes sense to me to want to have the away mission in the memory of the crew member you retain long term unless something happened to them on the away mission. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheGayTramp@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Are stargates cloning devices? Aren't they wormholes? I haven't watched a lot of SG-1 so forgive me if they covered that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ionaru@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago They frequently mention the Stargate operates using wormholes, but also that things dematerialize and get reconstructed on the other end. The iris works because it's so close to the wormhole that it doesn't leave enough room for things to be reconstructed. Also Teal'c got stuck in the Stargate "buffer" once when the power was cut prematurely from the other end. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ionaru@feddit.nl 1 point 3 years ago They frequently mention the Stargate operates using wormholes, but also that things dematerialize and get reconstructed on the other end. The iris works because it's so close to the wormhole that it doesn't leave enough room for things to be reconstructed. Also Teal'c got stuck in the Stargate "buffer" once when the power was cut prematurely from the other end. permalink fedilink source parent