97
submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
top 18 comments
sorted by: hot top new old
[-] [email protected] 63 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And we still question how the holocaust happened.m

Actually, I know how. You send them to ethnic ghettos, you control their food, water, electricity, and livelihood. You control their movement. You consider them subhuman. You get the support of the western powers, then you commit genocide and get mad when they resist. The only difference here is that western powers don’t even have nominal interest in ending the genocide

[-] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Actually we know fairly well how the holocaust happened, it's the same playbook that AmeriKKKa is using against trans people right now. People airing grievances against the far right government of a settler colonial apartheid state wasn't part of it, tho.

[-] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago

Bonus hilarity I found in the comments of Mike Cerno's retweet of this.

[-] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago

Gonna start accusing every LIB who bashes Putin of being bigoted against the Eastern Orthodox Church

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

libs probably think it's their right and duty to bash the Eastern Orthodox Church or smth. They would just get really aelf righteous about it.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Conservatives are claiming they did it to chants of "beat that fucking Jew". Obviously that would be completely unacceptable, but the video doesn't seem very convincing to me. From what I can make out, all but one of the people are screaming yeah. There's a women who is definitely screaming "beat that fucking ...". I can't make out the last word, but it sounds like two syllables, with a rising intonation on the second one, which would be a really strange way to say Jew. I also wouldn't describe it as a chant, as there's no melody. It just sounds like shouting to me.

I have absolutely no qualms about criticising anti-semetic elements of pro-Palestinian protests, and think we should keep that kind of language out of them. Shouting "beat that fucking Jew" is absolutely unambiguously anti-semetic, but I'm not going to accept the right wing version of events without clearer audio.

The people commenting there are of course accepting it uncritically, and are calling for jail and deportations, like any small government free speech advocate would. I'm sure none of them got mad that time the news said people were chanting let's go Brandon.

Edit: I watched the video in the tweet too, and it sounded like it could also be "rip that fucking ... off." I don't know how anyone can be so confident about what the woman is saying when the audio is so bad and she's drowned out by everyone's screaming. One thing I can say is that the only chanting was "Free Free Palestine".

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

Well they believed that one lady said the k slur when she obviously said "removed", and that that on canadian crowd was saying "Judah judah you cant hide" when they were obviously saying Trudeau

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes. Some people in the UK also claimed that protesters in London who were clearly chanting "ceasefire now" were actually chanting "intifada" or "jihad now" until other people challenged them on it. This one is quite different though, as regardless of what that woman was saying, she was the only person saying it, and it wasn't a chant.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

were actually chanting "intifada"

lmao the absolute state of terf island, there would be nothing wrong with calling for a third intifada

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

there would be nothing wrong with calling for a third intifada

That's pretty much what the protests in Seattle have been doing.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Jesus christ this entire month has been

"Hey stop committing genocide you sick fuck"

YOU GUYS WANNA HUNT ME FOR SPORT??

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

And it's important to remember that even if people are being bigoted to the ethnicity of the country commiting genocide, it doesn't make the genocide country the good guys. Like amerikkkans were super racist to Japanese people in WW2, but that doesn't change the fact that Japanese empire was a genocidal fascist state that needed to be destroyed. And western governments are siding with iSSrael, so it's not like the people with power are against them.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Yes, but I still think we need fight this kind of bigotry if it happens within our movements. There are plenty of Jewish people fighting for the rights of Palestinians, and they deserve to feel welcome.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Of course. I'm just saying that the presence of a few antisemitic Palestine supporters doesn't change the fact that support for Palestine is morally and factually right.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

Okay these people do not realize that they are defending the new genocide do they?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

they genuinely believe all Palestinians and their supporters want to kill all jews.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

So...now that we're in the anti-Palestine mood? Can we start mass incarcerating neo-nazis?

After all, they're pretty antisemitic too and WAY more of a threat to Jews than any pro-Palestine rally.

this post was submitted on 11 Nov 2023
97 points (100.0% liked)

the_dunk_tank

15988 readers
1 users here now

It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

Rule 1: All posts must include links to the subject matter, and no identifying information should be redacted.

Rule 2: If your source is a reactionary website, please use archive.is instead of linking directly.

Rule 3: No sectarianism.

Rule 4: TERF/SWERFs Not Welcome

Rule 5: No ableism of any kind (that includes stuff like libt*rd)

Rule 6: Do not post fellow hexbears.

Rule 7: Do not individually target other instances' admins or moderators.

Rule 8: The subject of a post cannot be low hanging fruit, that is comments/posts made by a private person that have low amount of upvotes/likes/views. Comments/Posts made on other instances that are accessible from hexbear are an exception to this. Posts that do not meet this requirement can be posted to [email protected]

Rule 9: if you post ironic rage bait im going to make a personal visit to your house to make sure you never make this mistake again

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS