I switched to Radicale and couldn't be happier, so lightweight no pain setting it up or updating. Supports CardDav for the addressbook and CalDav for calendar, tasks, notes.
Nextcloud is for Enterprises, not for selfhosting anymore.
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Completely agree about Nextcloud. The project rose to fame on selfhosters beta testing it, then buddied up to enterprise users and ditched the initial user base.
I tried to use Radicale, but it was too much effort, so i started using Baikal instead.
Haha, interesting, for me it was the exact opposite, I started with Baikal but it was too weird and I couldn't get it up and running quickly enough and then I think I was not able to share my calendar with my partner or something, so I switched to Radicale.
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Radicale has been so good I'd forgotton it existed, carddav and caldav sorted. Unix principle at its best, do one thing well (or microservices for the newbies). Why are you dogwhistling for a closed source marginal replacement for syncthing ?
Oh I also agree about Syncthing. With it you practically don't even need to run it on you server, I still do, just in case if all my other divices are offline.
I had similar requirements. I switched to Baikal, which has been happily running in a docker container ever since.
I've been hoping to find a non-PHP alternative to Nextcloud for a while, but unfortunately I've yet to find one which supports my base requirements for the file storage.
Due to some quirks with my setup, my backing storage consists of a mix of local folders, S3 buckets, SMB/SFTP mounts (with user credential login), and even an external WebDav server.
Nextcloud does manage such a thing phenomenally, while all the alternatives I've tested (including a Radicale backed by rclone mounts) tend to fall completely to pieces as soon as more than one storage backend ends up getting involved, especially when some of said backends need to be accessed with user-specific credentials.
Owncloud infinite scale is a rewrite of owncloud(=nextcloud) in go, it supports local, nfs and S3 mounts. Change the smb share to nfs and it might fit you
Disadvantages are:
- All the plugins need to be rewritten, so if you need some extra feature, it's going to be missing
- They got acquired by a company that sells an expensive alternative for corporations (RIP? Who is paying millions to maintain a free alternative/competitor?)
- Documentation is inferior, community is much smaller
I've been looking at the rewrite of Owncloud, but unfortunately I really do need either SMB or SFTP for one of the most critical storage mounts in my setup.
I don't particularly feel like giving Owncloud a win either, they've not been behaving in a particularly friendly manner for the community, and their track record with open core isn't particularly good, so I really don't want to end up with a decent product that then steadily mutilates itself to try and squeeze money out of me.
The Owncloud team actually had a stand at FOSDEM a couple of years back, right across from the Nextcloud team, and they really didn't give me much confidence in the project after chatting with them. I've since heard that they're apparently not going to be allowed to return again either, due to how poorly they handled it.
If you want to scale way down, Sabre develops the very lightweight Baïkal. I've been using it for a couple of years, and it's worked without a hitch. Just sits there and does its thing.
I just want an app to backup all the photos from my phone automatically. I use NextCloud for that currently and it works well. But, it's kinda heavy for what I want/need.
I solve this with immich too. Its a real game changer and agree with others that have indicated this as one of hthe best pieces of OSS.
have you heard about immich? it's a bit 'heavy', too, but that's because it's not just a photo backup solution but aims to be a self-hosted multi-user replacement for google photos.
Can Immich just leave my photos alone in their current location / folder structure, or does it take over and mangle it all up?
I'm fairly happy with my photo storage structure, but would like the features of Immich...
I use it in readonly mode. Works great nice app and great search capabilities.
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Cloudron is kind of a freemium product. They offer a few apps (two ?) for free to use. For more apps you need to pay. Their back-end does have a view-source-but-no-edit "open source" license last time I checked. Bu if you want to keep things easy, go for it.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:
| Fewer Letters | More Letters |
|---|---|
| DNS | Domain Name Service/System |
| HTTP | Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web |
| IP | Internet Protocol |
| SFTP | Secure File Transfer Protocol for encrypted file transfer, over SSH |
| SMB | Server Message Block protocol for file and printer sharing; Windows-native |
| SSH | Secure Shell for remote terminal access |
| SSO | Single Sign-On |
| nginx | Popular HTTP server |
6 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 5 acronyms.
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Syncthing can backup your photos on Android.
I second that. I've been using it for a couple of years, syncing calendars and address book with both my PC and my Android smartphone (using DavX) and never had any problems.
I can recommend using Cloudron but I don't use Radicale.
Cloudron is in no way a necessity for anyone - it's simply me being too lazy to keep everything up to date, read all the necessary documentation for all the services we run,etc. Cloudron does all that for me - and I couldn't be happier. Johannes,the owner, provides fast support (had two glitches with Hetzner DNS over the years) and the amount of Apps is getting wider each year, although I would rather see their range be broader (e.g. a proper Monitoring system instead of yet another project management),but that's just me.
In theory it's even possible to create your own apps for cloudron, both for public and private use, but that is beyond my capabilities. It can also be used as a SSO provider and reverse proxy,btw.
i have just started running radicale a lot more for calendars and contacts. then use betterbird for the client on my laptop and other android apps.
the problem is that there is no web-ui. otherwise, relatively solid and lightweight server so far.
From other responses to this thread it appears that Baikal does have a web UI so maybe it closes this gap?
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