I’m struggling to imagine what would have been worse today if Trump had been president for the last few years. I think pulling out of Afghanistan would have still happened, everything relating to Ukraine and Israel would still be true, Roe would still have been struck down without any meaningful opposition, COVID measures would be more or less the same, etc. Meanwhile, another Trump administration would have likely botched some things to the benefit to the rest of the world. I am unironically of the belief that Trump is the harm-reduction candidate, if only slightly and only because Trump is more likely to cause damage to US hegemony.
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Biggest difference would be that there would be liberal opposition to these things instead of full throated support
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There's no meaningful distinction between libs and chuds anymore.
He might have been even more gung-ho about Israel maybe? Which, murder either way ig.
Unfortunately we might still have roe if trump was in office. The libs hated him so much they were willing to do work out of spite. It is a shame that moment has passed though. When he inevitably wins this November no one will really care anymore. We are never going to taste TDS as sweet as that round again
There's a chance pandemic protections would have lasted longer. As far as I know, there were no plans on trumps end to stop them. Also, trump was the one that started the Afghanistan withdrawal. Trump also signed the bill that allowed hemp and weird cannabis analogues to be quazi legal. That's more movement on weed at the federal level than I've ever seen
I hope hexbear isn't trending toward the need for me to say I don't support trump, but federation and it's consequences have been brutal.
I think we’re all sensible enough to know that no one here supports Trump (or Biden, or the electoral system, for that matter). Being on the outside of that gives us the opportunity to look more clinically at the whole mess and point out things like you’ve mentioned. It’s not about being pro-Trump or even anti-Biden, it’s just that there are some things that are true, or at least can be said to be true based on the information available. A lot of it points to Biden being a hardline ideologue on a handful of substantial issues where Trump, having no real ideology beyond his own narcissism, could easily have a better position by accident, or as a result of inertia or blind opposition.
The one thing that makes Trump a potentially better harm reduction candidate, more than just by accident, is that his ability to implement policy i limited. Even where his positions are as bad or worse than Biden’s, his efforts are less likely to succeed and more likely to backfire. If there were more sunlight between the two of them then it would be easier to point to Biden as the superior option, but there isn’t much evidence of that, imo. If that’s the case, I’d rather see someone in the office who would be more likely to cause damage to the system that offered up such terrible options in the first place.
I agree.
When he accidentally does the right thing, it's likely more a result of it having been an easy win that nobody was paying attention to, like the farm bill, and things like the pandemic response being bigger than his administration. American Capital needed COVID assistance to keep workers alive just enough to not disrupt the cash flow. There isn't a single president who could have singlehandedly changed how it was handled at first.
His "what's in it for me?" Attitude towards foreign policy has moved leftism a couple of inches toward the goal of anti imperialism a couple of times. Even though it came from a selfish position. I have a hard time sussing out what the parties positions are anymore. Then I remember how it is entirely vibes based, and the parties will switch back and forth on support for big issues, but will keep moving full steam ahead to funnel all resources to the top, with bipartisan support.
Mac : And what? Vote for the democrat who's going to blast me in the ass? Or the republican who's going to blast my ass? Either way, politics is all one big ass blasting.
"look i know you have every expectation that four more years of biden will be worse, but don't you understand that if we lose this election to trump it will be worse?"
“I will revoke every Biden policy promoting the chemical castration and sexual mutilation of our youth and ask Congress to send me a bill prohibiting child sexual mutilation in all 50 states”
Donald Trump, CPAC, 2023
uhhhh critical support for republicans banning infant circumcision?