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‘Poisoning the blood of our country’: Trump amps up attack on immigrants (www.politico.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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With a border deal hanging in the balance and the Iowa caucuses a month away, Donald Trump amplified his attack on immigrants at a rally in New Hampshire on Saturday.

“They’re poisoning the blood of our country,” the former president said. “They’ve poisoned mental institutions and prisons all over the world. Not just in South America, not just the three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world they’re coming into our country from Africa, from Asia.”

While in the White House, Trump sought to deter immigration by building a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border, building some 450 miles of fencing along the nearly 2,000-mile border, much of which replaced existing barriers. In addition to strict border security measures, his administration also implemented a travel ban for people from several predominantly Muslim countries.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"poisoning the blood of our country"

This country was brown before the Europeans got here, and Trump's family didn't even get here until the early 1900's like the Irish and Russian portion of my family. He's a second generation American basically shit talking his own grandfather, yeah yeah I know, his grandfather is white so his immigration "doesn't count".

Racist prick just keeps showing who he is, while millions of black and brown folk ignore the racism and still vote for him and his MAGAklan homies.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's even worse than that, only 1% of people in America don't have an immigrant ancestor even as far back as one great grandparent.

Every single one of his supporters save maybe for some very desperately confused indigenous folks is a hypocrite of the fucking first order.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

And I've seen video of plenty of instances of MAGA telling them "go back to your own country", it's like "motherfucker, this is their country, same as all the Mexicans you complain about", the entire southwest from Texas to Cali used to belong to these people.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

But they don't care about that because all they give a shit about is the present. They are arrogant and they think they themselves own this country and the new people currently coming here are taking what they believe is theirs. It's all about feelings to them, not facts.

To argue the history and actual facts is to miss the point because Trump cultists have no meaningful connections to their pasts, and even if they were told they have immigrant relatives by other family, they wouldn't care, because the truth is not the reason why they believe what they do.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

It's just typical dog bites man shit for him. He was probably talking about his three wives anyway. His apologists will trot out and say, "He didn't really mean it", like always.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Literally copying Hitler.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Hitler went to jail for a failed coup attempt before taking power

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This dipshit has miscalculated his age in his grand copycat dicktater plot.

He's much older than Hitler was. He ain't gonna last the prison time he's getting.

Will be the most glorious of days when evil incarnate finally dies.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Glorious until they start mythologizing him more than they already do.

Living under the ghost of Reagan has been bad enough; I shudder to think what living under the ghost of Trump would be like.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

It can't be any worse than living with the real thing. I'll take a dead Trump over a live one every time.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This isnt even a thinly-veiled comment. This is openingly White Nationalist language.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

He's pretty openly white nationalist. Despite what apologists might say. Or his own lying ass.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (19 children)

As I watch the Muslim community threatening Joe Biden, I really truly wonder if they could actually cut their own noses off and vote for this clear threat to their existence in America.

That anyone can stand up and say this to a crowd of Americans and still legitimately have a chance to win the presidency is terrifying.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Understanding this phenomena is part of tolerance. Muslims are very hierarchal culturally. Generally new immigrants see themselves as on the lower end of the hierarchy with several layers of people above them who are within their rights to oppress them. Unfortunately, Muslims tend to see LGBTQ+ as belonging below them. Biden might be saying "we'll make America better for you", but until they see LGBTQ+ people as worse off than them, someone with a hierarchal mindset will not feel better off.

Trump might say "we're going to oppress Muslims", but he's also saying "we're going to oppress gays and trans much more". Someone that's hierarchal minded will see that as improving his position in society. Their position isn't absolute, it's relative.

To beat this we have to understand that most immigrants, not just Muslims, have a hierarchical mindset. We need to fight against social hierarchy as a mindset, and include that in the messaging we give to new immigrants. We also have to understand that LGBTQ+ rights are going to lose us considerable immigrant vote and time our pushes accordingly to ensure the best chance of success and the fastest possible progress.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you a Muslim? You're very confident that you know how Muslims think.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lol, I'm not sure what part you're debating here. Arab/Muslim culture is very hierarchal and generally not pro LGBT. I've lived in Muslim countries long enough to understand those two things. Those are the only 2 "assumptions" I've made, everything else applies generally to a hierarchical (or socialy conservative) mindset.

If you want to debate those two facts feel free, I'd love to hear that there has been enough positive change in the last decade that most Arab countries are no longer hierarchal/patriarchal or have come around on LGBT rights.

Let me know, I'd love to see the studies!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

So you're not Muslim, then. Got it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The trick is really to give Joe as much hell as possible so hes scared we won't. Doesn't mean we have to keep our word.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Joe's been at this a long time. He dgaf what people who can't vote against him think.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They don't have to vote for Trump. If enough people stay home then that may be all that's needed. One thing for certain is that the right wingers aren't going to stay home.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The blood ? Wow.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

And the soil.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Israel, Argentina, Trump, just full blown fascism without a hint of irony. It's like they read the stories of the past but were incapable of learning from it. They better learn quick because the last guy that made an earnest effort went to sleep on the cold concrete of a bunker with his wife and kids. They're delusional if they think it'll end differently.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It’s like they read the stories of the past but were incapable of learning from it.

That or took the wrong lessons from it, which seems more likely.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I remember when this guy told America to drink bleach to cure Covid.

Clown.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Injecting bleach, wasn't it?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Obama is more American than Trump. Don has just one natural born US ancestor, Fred Sr. He married two immigrants, most of his kids have just two natural born US ancestors, himself and Fred Sr.

Trump hire a bunch of undocumented workers at his properties because he can't afford to pay market rates for his employees.

Trump doesn't give af about the blood of our country, just another fascist using bigotry to gain power.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Is there any republican who isn't saying similar things? I live in Iowa, so I have the potential to attend a republican caucus, but so far they are all some variation on the drill for oil (Iowa has no oil and is second in the nation for wind power), and immigrants bad (nearest border is 500 miles north). As a self described right wing liberal I'm not seeing anyone on the national stage speaking about issues I care about and immigration is one where I'm hostile to the dominate position.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Anybody from immigrant families votes for this guy...WTF.

WTF?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Pretty sure Niki will if the orange one is nominated.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Interesting choice of words. This could be an excerpt straight out of Mein Kampf. Hitler wrote that "jews were poisoning the blood of germans". Germans with jewish ancestry were not considered to be "pure blooded". The Nuremberg Laws even had a classification based on blood "pureness". [1] German nazi propaganda used to play a lot with these words. Take for example the children's book Der Giftpilz (the poisonous mushroom), in which the book explains how the jews are secretely "posioning" the country. [2] Very interesting rhetoric.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws#Classifications_under_the_laws

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Giftpilz

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Just inject some bleach and it'll clear that blood right up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

With all of it being fucking bad, him screeching like that means there's no other option. He's helpless, so he tries to contact the deepest fear of his base. It'sa good sign.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How is unabashed fascism a good sign? How blind do you have to be to think that he's somehow losing the run for president?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

It's not good he can go for it, right.

It's good he is so struggling he goes all-in into faschism to clutch these last percents of his userbase.

And I hope - losing others while doing so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

How is unabashed fascism a good sign?

It means Democrats can move even further to the right and still be able to say they're the lesser evil.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

The funny thing to me is that this is in New Hampshire, which is 88.8% non-Hispanic white while the national average is 58.9%. There aren't a lot of immigrants in New Hampshire, but there is a lot of empty space. When I lived there, a guy down the road had a bumper sticker on his car saying something to the effect of "this country is full". All around his house were just trees.

(But don't get the wrong idea about New Hampshire. The southern part of the state has a lot of conservatives who weren't happy in liberal Massachusetts, but overall the state is about 50/50, and it voted for Hillary back in 2016.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

He gonna make Mexico pay for it, too!1!!

lol only suckers support such a fool.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Wrong. Entry for the purposes of seeking asylum is protected under international law: ""Under international law, it is not illegal to seek asylum. Article 14(1) of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights provides that ‘everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution’.

Article 31 of the Refugees Convention, states that it is legal to enter a country for the purposes of seeking asylum. Article 31 further provides that signatory states should not impose penalties for entering illegally.

The Refugees Convention recognises a right to enter a country for the purposes of seeking asylum, regardless of how people arrive or whether they hold valid travel or identity documents."

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