Even sold/ repacled my MacBook Air with/for it :D
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Right now I'm on T480 that I got because it was the last model they made with an external battery.
Same. Replaced everything for fun. Different keyboard, removed internal battery for a dummy one, dual cooler on my Intel only board.
Framework was the first laptop since then that hit my minimum threshold of maintenance.
It sits in a nice position of x20/30 series and x80 series with ease of maintenance.
It's fantastic being able to swap a drive in my X220 in 2 minutes. At same time, I rarely need to do that..
Although I could always use the SSD adapter in Framework
Ah, reminds me of the Thinkpads of old -- external batteries, ultrabay that could hold another battery or whatever else you need, swapping drives, wireless cards, etc. and finding that perfect keyboard from the best of the 2-3 manufacturers they used. I also remember hunting down the last T-series they made with a 4:3 screen (the T61)
Yeah, every generation got 1 thing better but 2 things worse.
X200 with T480 performance (or better) would be where I land Then turns out that's basically a Framework :)
Framework is going to surpass them in hobbyist circles for sure. Being able to convert a laptop to a headless server once the battery is gone is too cool. Can't wait to see what they or the community achieve.
HP envy on its last legs
I was evaluating different specs for a Thinkpad T-14 when Framework started taking pre-orders, and that is the only other laptop I'd even consider now. I still miss the trackpoint & physical buttons, but I love my Framework and have no regrets about my decision.
I still hold out hope for a third-party Thinkpad lower clamshell for us trackpoint addicts.
I don’t have a 13 but preordered a 16, currently on a Dell G15 from a couple years ago, and a dell latitude supplied to me by my workplace
I have a desktop computer that I'm replacing with the FW16. Does that count?
Yup. 100% counts.
In addition to my Framework I also have an HP victus gaming laptop that I bought as a family computer (I'm staying with a couple family members while finishing grad school).
I use Razer Blade 14' 2017
Dell Inspirion 7577 w/ an i7-7700HQ and 1060 Max-Q, should be about 6+ years ago going from high school to college.
Batch 9 for FW13 7840u. Coming from an i7 Macbook Pro 2015 15 inch.
I like to be able to repair my laptop. My MBP is getting old, software updates seem to be making it worse to use. Random restarts. Screen is beginning to have backlight bleed. Not trying to change out the screen or change the battery for a 3rd time. Its time to retire it.
Looking forward to the AMD igpu.
Surface laptop 2, which is slowly dying. Mostly because of overheating and a very poor battery life. So my new laptop should have a replaceable battery. But i also like the customizability, mostly because of the amount of RAM i want. There are only a few laptops of this size with 64gb of ram. Also, the price isn't any higher compared to other laptops where i live. It's even cheaper than most other laptops if you buy your RAM and storage separately.
I have a HP dB 1xxx laptop. R3500u, upgraded to 32gb RAM and 1tb storage. But today my fw13 AMD arrived. But the delivery came 15min after I left for my university so I have to wait till the evening...
My previous 3 laptops are Clevo barebones, build to specification by XNB Computers a small family company that work out of the Netherlands.
I ordered a FW16 as a replacement. Mostly because my husband really wants to play with it, hardware. ^^
MacBook Pro 2019 (intel, touch bar). It was between FW13 and new MBA but I got a crack in my MBP screen the day I got it 4 years ago, which taunts me every day... the ease of replacement on a FW was an easy selling point
Surface Laptop 3
HP Probook 650 G1. I got the Framework because I needed more RAM
My last laptop was a comically oversized gaming laptop (acer predator helio 700). Had a slide keyboard and rgb up the wazoo. Big loud and almost 0 baterry life. The keyboard stopped working in one spot and the battery cant be replaced. Im sick of disposable laptops and want one that can be fixed, upgraded, and customized. Now with career, kids, etc wanted a much more professional laptop with mobility. With the amd igpu it will be able to some light gaming on the side. Fw13 amd was a dream come true. Guess i will repurpose the old laptop into a desktop for a family member.
Similar to me, a Digital Storm Nova 15" gaming laptop. Hideously loud and hot. Always mis-typing with the mechanical keyboard and trackpad that couldn't filter palm touches while typing.
I always used desktop pc. Framework is my first laptop and I'm really happy with it. I can open it up and upgrade it like my pc.
Acer with Gen 6 i5, 16GB and 940Mx and Fujitsu T939 with Gen 8 i7,16GB.
I have a MacBook Pro late-2013. It runs correctly in 2023, but the battery doesn't last a lot anymore, and the power cable broke... 85€ in an Apple Center, for a device that doesn't receive Apple's update anymore. 😑
Except the battery and the power cable, everything is in perfect condition.
I'm kind of fedup of not being able to easily replace the battery and having to buy an overpriced cable.
So this is how I ended up on the Framework community. I'm in batch 9 of 13" AMD laptop, hope the promise will be kept. 🤞🤞🤞
My previous laptop was/is an Acer Nitro 5 from I think 2018? It has an AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, AMD Radeon RX 560X, 16GB of ram, a 256GB SSD, and a 2TB HDD. Still moving things between them. The old Acer's plastic chassis is literally held together with duct tape at this point.
HP Dev One. A very solid laptop. Built like a tank, great keyboard. A workhorse. FW13 is to play with and experiment.
I've owned almost every laptop under the sun. Macbook Pro, Thinkpad, Dell XPS, Dell Precision, HP Envy, Razer, Clevo, etc..
I can't wait for Framework to be more available so I can build a 16" tablet and use my split ergo keyboard with it. That being said, of all the laptops I've owned nothing has survived the amount of abuse my Thinkpads have. No they aren't as repairable but they are built to last. Plus they keyboard is the only laptop keyboard I enjoy typing on.
yes, Thinkpads just seem so solid, even the more recent ones. The only thing I truly hate about them, build-wise, is that coating they use that's a huge grease magnet. If the weather's hot and/or you have sweaty hands a new Thinkpad will look like someone dumped a quart of motor oil over it within a few days! What's more, the grease marks in well-handled areas can be impossible to fully get out eventually regardless of the cleaning products used. The older Thinkpads with the hard black plastic never suffered from this issue. I'm really looking forward to the bare aluminum of the FW13.
2011 MBP, before that a 10" inch EeePC. When I saw this it got me the same kind of excited as the Eee. Looking forward to it.
I'm coming from Thinkpads. I was running older models until the T495s dropped, but honestly that generation of Ryzen left a lot to be desired. I've been waiting for System76 to unveil their custom laptop for a while now, but I've grown impatient and want something to hold me over until then (unless I end up loving the Framework in which case I'll probably just invest into upgrades.)
I'm really hopeful that the more recent Ryzen mobile chipsets are actually usable and not a constant throttling mess, my T495s was awful.
I have a bunch of other laptops; a 16" Asus gaming laptop; 14" Apple Macbook Pro; 14" LG laptop (my main laptop when I go mobile); and a Lenovo Thinkpad 480S.
At this point, I'm thinking of replacing my LG laptop with my 13" Framework laptop.