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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't accept that as an excuse - because if it is a "joke", then it's one that only works if they say this stuff all the time seriously.

It's the species of "it's a joke!" that's serious until someone calls them out on it, then they retreat to claiming it was just a joke.

This is essay worthy in itself. There is this thing I've been thinking a lot about lately around the conflation of the flexibility of language and a flexibility of the definition of words. Just because language evolves it doesn't necessarily mean that the meaning of words can, should, does, change with it. Every time someone says "it's obvious this was a joke" they are fucking with the definition of a joke.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In some sense I'm relieved that the "rationalist" crowd seem to be exactly as creepy and cultish in real life as they appear online.

lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

to be scrupulously fair there's only a small subset in the threads doing that annoying passive-aggressive HN thing of "I don't understand, please provide me with copious citations supporting your position".

It's very important for some HN to keep up the facade that Scott Siskind is just the author of the Neoreactionary FAQ and actually not a neoreactionary himself.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The latter is quite the rationalization esp when he has prefaced the article with 'I no longer believe in parts of this article [which parts, I thought epistemic honesty was important etc etc]) and just left it at that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I’m reminded of a story I’ve heard told here in ZA (the details of which I’ve never seen confirmed anywhere, so treat it as apocryphal or folk retelling):

A leading cabinet member said in session “half of you lot are idiots”. When admonished about his remark and ordered to rescind it, he went with “half of you lot aren’t idiots”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of the easiest ways to get downvoted on the orange site is to say anything even mildly critical of Scott Alexander Siskind. It's really amusing how much respect there is for him there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

More depressing than amusing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I love blaming slatescott for things, I do think there's maybe a deeper story to the fascination with addies than slatescott blogging about it once.

A lot of millennials were prescribed stimulants as kids, enough that we have some level of folk knowledge about them. In Adderall Risks he more or less admits to handing them out like candy and he is far from the only (lol ex) psychiatrist to do so.

The article, while clearly endorsing stimulants as a safe nootrooic that everyone should take (and is good for the world now let me munch a few more pills 💊), is actually more of an apologia to convince people who are already using stimulants that no harm will come to them. Sure there's the usual amount of discovering an apple pie from scratch new atheist libertarian bloviating that obscures it, but he does that about everything.*

One funny aspect of his 'stimulants are required for modern work' argument is that he's basically endorsing the social model of disability, though more recently he has decided that expressing ableism to own the libs is more important than being correct.

*Except if he wants to sneak in an idea without you thinking about it. Those will usually be the hardcore nrx ones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

more recently he has decided that expressing ableism to own the libs is more important than being correct.

I already know these people are eugenicists who would rather die than think about sociology for one minute, but still I feel the need to say: god what a cunt.