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Israel hits Iran South Pars facilities in world's largest natural gas field (thelemmy.club)

submitted 1 month ago by BharatiyaReformist@lemmy.ml to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/44706503

In the dark of the night, Israel has struck Iranian facilities linked to South Pars, the largest natural gas field in the world, moving ahead towards a serious escalation.

Many Arabian countries like Oman have condemned the attack, calling it as a "Serious Escalation". Even the US President Donald Trump is against further strikes on Energy infrastructures in Iran (Yeah, how will USA loot them after regime change if that happens). But, we all know Israel, they rarely oblige to US desires.

Iran has already started to retaliate, launching strikes on significant energy facilities across the Persian Gulf.

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[-] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 month ago

Israel, the religious extremist regime, with clear Nazi practices, must be isolated economically, socially and politically. What they do to someone today, they will do to you shortly. We have seen this history play out before.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago

the conspiracy theorists are saying that they want to bring forward the end times to force gods hand to protect them and it's a sobering though considering that it means engaging their samson option

[-] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

it's weird because there is no hard evidence for this but at the same time we have people like Peter Thiel that are involved in this shit saying stuff about the antichrist

oh and don't forget all the crazy evangelists getting ready for rapture, this time will be the one! /s

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

oh and don’t forget all the crazy evangelists getting ready for rapture, this time will be the one! /s

As will the next time. Lol

[-] grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 1 month ago

“The Samson Option is a deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a "last resort" against any country whose military has invaded and/or destroyed much of Israel.” —Wikipedia

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

it sounds like you're unaware that wikipedia is a terrible source; not even high schools will let you use it as such.

i'll fix the part where they're trying to mislead all of us:

The Samson Option is a deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a “last resort” against any [powerful] country [when] much of Israel [is destroyed].

[-] tpyo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

So they'd go the MAD route?

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

it's a bit like the dead hand option that the soviet union built as insurance in case united states was ever crazy enough to attack. it would launch nukes at their enemies, whereas the samson option is pointed at both enemies and allies alike as their own insurance policy to take the whole world down w them.

[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure the US was entirely aware of and in support of that strike and any statement contrary is just cowardly bullshit. Trump’s own statement denying US involvement is so transparently begging them to not bomb Qatar again that I can’t see any way to interpret it as anything but a narcissist meeting consequences and immediately shifting blame and trying to deescalate.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 month ago

Exactly, the US went for massive escalation with an attack on the world's largest gas field, and now wants to end such attacks. It's a really transparent tactic to try and control escalation. If Iran permits the US to decide when to escalate, their deterrence collapses and they will also lose the war. The energy infrastructure of the Gulf States will now burn and US escalation control remains a delusion.

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 month ago

Public pushback against his master is very significant. Israel's response was "we're unlikely to do it again" is master taking the pushback under advisement. You should see hope for a wedge that can end the war, instead of speculation that there is no resistance to master.

[-] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago

Hope for what? You are delusional if you take anything Israel says as true

Remember the ceasefire in gaza?

[+] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -7 points 1 month ago

US is very busy pretending that Israel doesn't fully control them, and that Israel didn't force them into this war. Hope for US peace agreement with Iran.

[-] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Ok, let's say they put a peace agreement with Iran. How would they force Israel to stop their attacks? Will Israel agree on peace too?

I get it, I wanna cope this shit but let's be real the US has been doing stuff like this for a very very very long time and a 'peace agreement' better take into account repair costs for all the damage

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

US and Iran can agree on opening SoH, and GCC immunity. Instead of writing a strongly worded cheque to Israel, the US can control Israel, by either cutting them off weapons, or making them pay cash up front instead of gifts. US has full agency over Israel, even if their love has only led to anal, historically.

a ‘peace agreement’ better take into account repair costs for all the damage

Iran will receive enough to declare victory, even if US can claim victory on denuclearization.

[-] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Iran will receive enough to declare victory, even if US can claim victory on denuclearization.

is this just speculation of your part or is there a source for this? I know what Iran is demanding but I'm not seeing the US agreeing on this

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

SoH is not closed. GCC production/export capacity is not completely zero yet. Iran controls it though. If US doesn't agree to peace, then any food/water imports to GCC and oil exports getting a 10% Iran tax/toll is a better deal for everyone than not letting shipping go through. Gulf oil has hit $165/bbl today. A month ago, GCC was happy getting $65/bbl. They are happy at any number "net" in between, as are their Asian customers. Paying in Yuan is not a "showstopper" problem for any of them.

US language is rapidly de escalating, if you look for it.

[-] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

thanks for your insight

putting that aside, what is your native language?

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Let say the usa refused, what isrsel would have done to punish the usa?

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

Israel has always controlled the US by playing both parties. Since Oct 7th, all money is for GOP, and any left over is for DNC to lose on purpose, while still fully praising genocide-lite. This blatant Israel-only-desperate war short circuting Mossad agent US negotiations with Iran, with top national security official resigning over Israel first war, and Marco Rubio admitting Israel forced the US to obey orders, puts the US in a vulnerable position of being caught pants down with Netanyahu's cock in their throat.

US establishment's eagerness to be under absolute Israel control is unshakable, and so massive opportunities to control narrative, and punish detractors, is certain. However, absolute impotence towards Iran's will, and reality, is a bigger force facing US politics.

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The israelis lobbies are financed by american zionists not israelis. Americans kept voting for aipac backed politicians for decades. Americans are simply not using their power to stop israel

[-] prof_tincoa@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago

This is really a tail wagging the dog type of analysis. The US needs to leash their dog, not the other way around.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 month ago

natural gas

We can start just saying 'methane' now. We don't need to 'green-wash' it like it's not killing our air.

[-] Eufalconimorph@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 month ago

It's only mostly methane. There are other gases, like ethane. Ethane clogs up power plants & furnaces, so it has to be separated out from the methane. It gets used to make PETE (#1), HDPE (#2), & LDPE (#4) plastics. Natural gas extraction produces so much waste ethane that it's currently economically unviable to recycle those plastics, since it's cheaper to make new. Even if sent to a recycling facility they almost entirely get landfilled or incinerated. :(