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Phoronix: Several Linux Kernel Driver Maintainers Removed Due To Their Association To Russia (www.phoronix.com)

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 hour ago

Couldn't think of a more lemmy thread topic than one involving both Russian geopolitics and linux.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 hour ago

I am quite disappointed at the lack of transparency regarding this.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 hours ago

Kernel development is for fed only.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 minutes ago

Gotta have them "various compliance requirements", man, gotta have'em. Don't ask me what they are, but damnit, gotta have'em.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Hello Internet commenters. Please remember that there's no rule that says you need to tell us all your gut reaction to this if you know absolutely nothing about the situation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

knowing nothing about the situation is indeed the problem. if only this process was more transparent...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

This is a shame, I always thought Linux was supposed to be an International collaboration, hate to see it caught up in this bullshit political agenda.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (4 children)

Does invading your neighbor count as international collaboration? Not that all Russian people can be held directly responsible for the actions of their government.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 32 minutes ago (1 children)

You do realize that the US has invaded far more countries than Russia has, do burgerlanders have no self awareness at all?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 25 minutes ago

@yogthos @theunknownmuncher I am in the US and I realize this. There was a funny meme a while back about look how aggressive Russia is, they put their country all around our military bases. Unfortunately there is a lot of truth in that. What other country has military bases throughout the world?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 minutes ago

Aside from the fact that it's pretty insane to suggest to kick someone off a project for no reason other than their nationality (the article doesn't say any of these maintainers supported the invasion or had any ties with the government), even if these people actively supported the government, as far as kernel development is concerned... I don't really care? If their contributions are good then I want their patches to be merged. Tor was made by the US government, which I in no way condone, but I still use Tor.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (3 children)

I'm sure removing these maintainers would be of great help to the Ukrainian war effort...

More seriously: We need to help Ukraine more. But this doesn't do that. It just hurts a bunch of people (both the maintainers, and the people using their code) for no benefit whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 32 minutes ago

The biggest help the west could've done for Ukraine was to fuck off when the Istanbul negotiations were happening two months into the war.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

100% agree with you! Like I said, I don't think we can hold all Russian people directly responsible for the actions of their government.

I wish for an ideal world where politics could stay out of Linux, but this is extremely tricky and cannot be treated black and white. Labeling things as "political" and then crying to keep "politics" out of things is often used as a weapon for exclusion, for example by sexuality or race, and I think exclusion should be anathema for Linux and open source projects.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 hour ago

@lily33 @theunknownmuncher The best way we can help Ukraine is by removing outside influences from both sides. What is being portrayed as a war in Ukraine is really a proxy war between Russia and the US that was egged on by the US. This is most unwise given that both nations are armed to the teeth with nukes. We really should be looking at ways to de-escalate not escalate this war.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 hours ago (7 children)

@theunknownmuncher The US has been involved in probably 300 regime changes throughout the world, has invaded many countries, including those that we were not affiliated with. Russia invades a neighboring country when we install a leader that is going to allow us to put missiles on their border. I really hate to see political hegemony get in the way of a good collaborative effort, we all suffer for it if we allow this.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 hours ago (10 children)

The US has been involved in probably 300 regime changes throughout the world, has invaded many countries, including those that we were not affiliated with.