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[–] [email protected] 107 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh wonderful! Another 10 years and we can use it natively without polyfills!

[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

Ah, that makes sense

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Doesn't stop your manager from requiring support for the other 4%.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Most websites these days refuse to support even Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

~~Yeah, pretty much as Flex at 97% which is a nice comparison.~~

Edit: See mattd’s comment

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

Why are we not angrier about css generally?

[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Because things were much worse in the beforetime

[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

What, you didn't enjoy slicing up images and arranging them in borderless tables?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Eh the software handled all that. Rounded corners tho…

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Rounded corners tho…

Just a small gif (as png didn't exist/widely supported) that had the rounded corner. Then if someone wanted to change the color or background you would have to redo all the images. Fun fun.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

Nah it's fine, we'll just do the whole website in Shockwave.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

WYSIWYG editors were evil

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The software? Are you talking about Adobe ~~Dreamweaver~~ Dreamcrusher or something?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

My money's on Microsoft Frontpage

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Please indicate where IE touched you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

*gestures broadly at entire body

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

In my faux column

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 weeks ago

I am blisteringly angry about CSS in general AND THIS FUCKING ISSUE IN PARTICULAR since 2005 at the very latest. Likely enough to up the average for several thousand people with only mild dislike for CSS.

If CSS had a church I would burn it down. In minecraft of course.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I would say because a) there are zero alternatives, and b) it's pretty powerful; you can generally do pretty much any layout even if it requires hacks, c) switching to something else is clearly infeasible so it's not worth even asking for.

Just have to live with it (on the web at least).

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

d) we remember the world before it was introduced

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

What we were promised:

Content in one HTML document.

Styles in other CSS, able to apply any to completely alter the layout of the document.

What we got:

<div class="mt mid flex lt-8 no-margin up-1">

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

CSS 3 is solid, mate. You can do just about anything with it if you know what you're doing.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Some of the pure CSS stuff I've seen is actually insane.

Obviously not actually for real world use, but a great example is https://github.com/kkuchta/css-only-chat

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

With pseudo sectors, flex, and grid, your options are amazing. I haven't encountered a design I can't build in a very long time.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago

BaCkWaRdS cOmPaTiBiLiTy 😵‍💫

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)
* { display: flex; }
[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Is it just me or is the irony lost on the author? It says "align-content: center" but it's only vertically aligned...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

That's because under flexbox for horizontal alignment you use a different property called justify-content.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because we already have a way to center text horizontally...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes but my grief was with the naming... why not call it vertical-center? Just "center" is very confusing to me because it does not include horizontal.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 weeks ago

Well that came like 10 years too late lol

I don't think I'll ever use it considering it was already easily possible with flexbox, and before that (although dirtier) with tables as well.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, we've been vertically centring content with no-trick pure CSS for years now, so, good I guess?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

no-trick pure CSS

What do you mean? How else would you center content without CSS?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

There were tons of options with multiple HTML elements with a sequence of CSS properties to reliably provide vertical centering (and also use vertical space at the same time) back in the days.

Now, between flex and grid (mainly flex for me, I find them more convenient) all the HTML scaffolding we used to make this work can be removed to get the same result. That's what I mean with "no trick".

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

It's worthless if you have to give it an explicit height, and also if it doesn't have support in all browsers.

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