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submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Things seem to have moved after the Cabinet meeting this morning, but there are some pretty big caveats:

[The announcement] will stipulate the need for the release of all the hostages still held by Hamas and be based on a guarantee the terror group no longer rules Gaza, sources say.

Also made me wonder how Starmer's conversation with Trump went yesterday. Not good?

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Yeah, it's pretty weak sauce. I don't see that the UK has much leverage, but that being the case, we ought to be just doing the moral thing. As I said in the OP, I do wonder how the chat with Trump - who, gods help us, is one of the few people who does have leverage - fed into the calculation of this statement.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago
[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

I don't think so. Even Netanyahu's response to this shows he's going to ignore us completely.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Whatever it stop netenyahu or not doesn't matter. It's uk and any un state members obligation to use all their leaverage against a genocide since they signed the geneva and genocide convension

[-] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

This is a perfectly fine argument that I already agreed with a mere two comments ago when I said:

I don’t see that the UK has much leverage, but that being the case, we ought to be just doing the moral thing.

With bold, this time. You know, in case it helps.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

I don't see why you said even Netanyahu's response to this shows he's going to ignore us completely then.

We still disagree about the uk having no leaverage too

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

What kind? Genuine question, I don't know shit about this

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Uk has no eminent security risk so there is no reason to by and sells arms from/to israel. Israel is the 44th trading parner of the uk so they can also impose sanctions on israel

[-] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Israel is the 44th trading partners of Israel? Sorry what the fuck are you trying to say here?

Ok makes sense now you've edited it 😀

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

I mean israel is only uk's 44th trade partner accounting for only about 0.3% of total UK trade. The uk could impose sanctions on israel

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Is direct trade that only issue that determines whether or not sanctions could be applied?

Surely there's general politics bulshittery in the mix ?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Well I guess it's about the degree of leverage that you have. Trading is... A big stick.

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