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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Wouldn't the state also be in the frame before the capitalist at the end?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm an ML but no, states are more fundamental than capitalism. There were states prior to capitalism and they will likely exist after capitalism, but capitalism cannot exist without a state as the special apparatus of class oppression.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As an ML though you could argue that states are downstream of the economic circumstances that force their development

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, you're probably right