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CNN data guru Harry Enten broke down the latest polling in the Democratic Party on views toward Israel and the Palestinians on Wednesday and marveled at the massive shift in attitudes, declaring he’s “rarely” seen anything like it in his many years of looking at polling data.

Enten spoke to anchor Kate Bolduan in the context of Zohran Mamdani’s sweeping victory over ex-Gov. Andrew Cuomo in New York City’s Democratic Party mayoral primary last week.

"What are we talking about here? All right, who do Democrats sympathize more with: Israelis or Palestinians? In 2017, the Democratic Party was a pro-Israeli party. Look at this. They sympathized with the Israelis by 13 points—more with the Israelis than the Palestinians. But look at this sea change. Now, Democrats sympathize more with the Palestinians by 43 points.Oh my God! That is a change in the margin of 56 points over the course of just eight years. So all of a sudden, it’s the pro-Palestinian position that actually reigns supreme in Democratic politics, not the Israeli position. And that is part of the reason why Mamdani was able to do so well in this primary, because those attacks over Israel, simply put, did not ring true for Democrats"

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 11 hours ago

What I think is most unbelievable is that the Israelis actually think people are buying their BS excuses. They really need to take lessons from Trump who apparently can make millions believe the most ridiculous lies.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 8 hours ago

Israelis don't really care as long as people keep voting for the two parties which are in their pocket.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

Isn't that what Netanyahu has being doing all along?

[-] [email protected] 40 points 12 hours ago

So all of a sudden

Maybe something happened that caused the shift? Hmm, what could it be?

[-] [email protected] 18 points 10 hours ago

Don't say it or you're an anti-semite. Shocking that opposing the murdering and starving of people is antisemitic.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 12 hours ago

Was right on the tip of my tongue, but can't quite come up with it. Something about a gen or side? Something like that I think.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago

genside? generation? genetics? idk

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Now that trump is implementing centrists' only policy for them, they have to pretend to dislike it.

[-] [email protected] 157 points 17 hours ago

Committing genocide tends to turn the public against you.

And somehow that comment is antisemitic. Because the Nazis are Jewish now. I just want people to stop killing other people!

[-] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago

I just want people to stop killing other people!

hey, that's antisemitic! think of all the profits weapons companies could make, you're hurting them. what about their freedom?

[-] [email protected] 16 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, boy, wair for it: there're also a million less palestinians to sympathise with than there were 8 years ago. I think something is going on down there. Something very anti-semitic.

[-] [email protected] 64 points 17 hours ago

I mean, there wasn't an incredibly well documented, active genocide happening 8 years ago.

That has a lot of sway on public opinion.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

It was an open air prison poised for a genocide then. I’m glad people are realizing that the Israeli is as evil as anything and they shield it with a blanket of “antisemitism” to shut everyone up. That old chestnut no longer is working.

[-] [email protected] 49 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

There was, in Palestine. In 2014, Israel murdered like 1,400 Palestinians. This is nowhere near new for Israel, it is SOP for 70 years. The difference is that social media platforms gave us a direct view that corporate media actively chooses to not show us, as you pointed to.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Reporting almost 60,000 killed in this current war. That’s over 40x as many. Not downplaying the 1,400 but let’s not pretend this isn’t a great escalation compared to the atrocities of the past

[-] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Did you drop an /s ?

[-] [email protected] -5 points 11 hours ago

Counterpoint: Iraq and Afghanistan

[-] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago

nonsensical whataboutism, find me contemporary sources calling either of those wars genocides or face my wrath

[-] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago

I became aware in the last 2-3 years of the nineties, but I was always drawn to places that discussed these things.

[-] [email protected] 51 points 17 hours ago

I would say that the most telling thing is that there hasn't been a similar shift among Republicsns.

Anyone who can look at what Israel has done and is doing to the Palestinians in Gaza, and increasingly in the West Bank, without being filled with horror, revulsion and pity is a monster.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Republicans are shitty people full stop.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

Also look at what percentage of voters switched parties.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 16 hours ago

Fox News simply isn't covering the genocide. There's your explanation.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

People still think the Democratic Party is a democratic institution lol

[-] [email protected] 20 points 17 hours ago

I hate you whoever came up with saying points instead of percentage.

[-] [email protected] 80 points 16 hours ago

It's because describing a 56 percentage point increase as 56 percent increase implies a totally different result. A 56 percentage point increase on 10% is 66%. A 56 percent increase on 10% is 15.6%.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago
[-] [email protected] 10 points 16 hours ago

Thank you for posting this.

The people are rousing and that at least is consoling in the midst of this ongoing genocide by the state of Israel.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago

Yeah, democrats while flawed, are disproportionately comprised of compassionate human beings, who can recognize the difference between self defense and murder. That's why Orange McFayg has been trying to demonize them and their 'beliefs'.

It's literally an attack on anyone who may show compassion, or inner reflection, remorse... You know human traits

[-] [email protected] -1 points 5 hours ago

Lmao yeah right they finally discovered their humanity and empathy after two years of bombing.

Liberals are always against wars. Except the current ones of course

[-] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

It’s only deep blue states, won’t impact the country by much. Not to say rest of country are evil, they just care about their own interests and enjoy Fox News.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

That is evil when you are the only country that can stop this.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

...when you're the country that is actually financing this. Take away US assistance, Israel would be a poverty stricken backwater.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 13 hours ago

People finally realized the entrenched "democrats" aren't good people. They are poloticians just like the Republicans. We need a new party.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

They are not "just like Republicans". Yes, they're corrupt, and it's important to realize that. But like, holy shit man one party is literal fascists, and the other isn't. That said, need labor party

[-] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago

Yes, they’re corrupt, and it’s important to realize that.

They're also, you know, actively genocidal.

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