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Like is it avoided or might you kill flies to prevent flystrike. Or is it ignored when you'll inevitably kill some small bugs/insects

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/jainism/

Jainism, which has nothing to do with the mud planet folk hero, is so strict about nonviolence that Jains will not eat root vegetables because harvesting it would kill the plant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I'm here for the firefly references

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Okay that’s hardcore enough to start believing whatever they believe.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

We're currently in the sixth mass extinction event in the history of the Earth, with insects being hit quite badly in particular.

Obviously, this is largely due to climate change and agriculture. You're not likely going to save the world by sparing individual mosquitos.

But to me, that's still kind of why I never really felt this question was terribly relevant. Even a morally bankrupt egomaniac has an interest in keeping insects around, because they are an essential part of the network that supports our lives. And so, if there's no reason to kill a given insect, then you should want that insect to live an excellent life, whether you're vegan/pacifist or not.

If there is a reasonable chance that they carry a disease or similar, then yeah, that is a different, more nuanced discussion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I try to avoid it going as far as moving any bugs out of my house to the grass if they are big enough to see. It's an intention to cause less harm. I don't claim to be vegan or anything.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I catch and release flies outside and avoid it if it can be helped. I usually relocate worms or other bugs if they're going to get smashed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

In my experience there are 2 reasons to be a vegan. 1. animal wellbeing and 2. The environment. If you care about animal wellbeing we have to answer the question if bugs have a high enough awareness to notice and care about death. I think their consciousness is rather limited, so I think killing them in that regard is not too bad. Now from an environmental perspective it is bad to kill bugs, but killing one because it is running through your house will realistically not have to biggest impact compared to pesticides or highways or the lack of living space for these animals (rent got too high for them)

So as a vegan I kill moskitos and insects that could harm my property, food or stuff like that. The rest I try to get out the window but don't bother too much.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I wonder why the flies are on strike. Also our view of animals and how we think of their worth might depend on how we define intelligence. If we think that a cow is an intelligent being then we might think that it's wrong to kill it and eat it. If we think that a cockroach has no intelligence then there's no reason not to kill it. If we believe that all life on the planet has intelligence or what you might consider a soul or a spark of life whatever you want to call it then you might be a verse to killing anything. I'm not sure where you draw the line.