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Discussion around the Framework mission of building products that last longer by making them upgradeable, customizable, and repairable. Consumer electronics can be better for you and for the environment.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Doesn't that come down to what one defines as stable? To me LTS stable is just stagnant, but I prefer my software to be up-to-date.

If I look at Firefox 119.01 I don't think it less stable than Firefox 78.6.1 (ESR)

Just how that text reads (second image) makes you think the stable tag shouldn't exist for 22.04... Modifying something 'out of the box' does not seem stable when compared to something that works out of the box with updates.

Anyway thank you for all the work you do to ensure Linux works well on Framework laptops.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't that come down to what one defines as stable? To me LTS stable is just stagnant, but I prefer my software to be up-to-date.

- Firefox (snap) continues to be updated.

- Stable in that it's at a xx.xx.3 release state and has been thoroughly put through its paces. :)

- We work with our partners to make sure we are able to provide the best experience possible. In this case, we use OEM C as we have patches and fixes applied to that kernel set by our partners (AMD, etc). Regressions still occur of course, but are less frequent on LTS.

Appreciate the kind words. We are working like mad, and with a tiny team, it limits what we'd like to have done. But thankfully our partners are amazing, which helps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Anything that requires snaps can stay well away from my system, as I've never had good experiences with them compared to real packages (or even flatpaks, which seem to solve the problem snaps are trying to solve without being awful).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

To me LTS stable is just stagnant

No new features nor regressions, but bugs and security issues still get patched.

That's not stagnant. That's the definition of "stable".