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[-] Hegar@fedia.io 1 points 6 days ago

I think this is an incredibly important point. That fact is that the state does hold a monopoly on the legitimized use of violence.

Non-violence is the tactically correct choice in most situations. Punching a boss in the face is justified, but unlikely to result in a better wages.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 days ago

Right, or for another example, the many times oppressive states have had someone infiltrate protest movements to advocate/act violently, because they know that will get a better outcome for them.

[-] Hegar@fedia.io 1 points 6 days ago

That would allow them to justify the violence they were always planning to do, yeah. The fact is that the state is more powerful than we are. If we threaten it's control on violence it will react overwhelmingly.

There's that great book from the 60s that talks about systemic jiu-jitsu - how to use the power advantage of the state against it. That book is ideologically against pacisficism but tactically for it. "Do these ends justify these means", is the question it wants activists to ask, framing it with a quote from ghandi saying that he chose non-violence solely because it was the best tool to achieve their aims.

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