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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

I'd argue this is even worse than Sputnik for the US because Sputnik spurred technological development that boosted the economy. Meanwhile, this is popping the economic bubble in the US built around the AI subscription model.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Looks like it is not any smarter than the other junk on the market. The confusion that people consider AI as "intelligence" may be rooted in their own deficits in that area.

And now people exchange one American Junk-spitting Spyware for a Chinese junk-spitting spyware. Hurray! Progress!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Looks like it is not any smarter than the other junk on the market. The confusion that people consider AI as “intelligence” may be rooted in their own deficits in that area.

Yep, because they believed that OpenAI's (two lies in a name) models would magically digivolve into something that goes well beyond what it was designed to be. Trust us, you just have to feed it more data!

And now people exchange one American Junk-spitting Spyware for a Chinese junk-spitting spyware. Hurray! Progress!

That's the neat bit, really. With that model being free to download and run locally it's actually potentially disruptive to OpenAI's business model. They don't need to do anything malicious to hurt the US' economy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It is progress in a sense. The west really put the spotlight on their shiny new expensive toy and banned the export of toy-maker parts to rival countries.

One of those countries made a cheap toy out of jank unwanted parts for much less money and it's of equal or better par than the west's.

As for why we're having an arms race based on AI, I genuinely dont know. It feels like a race to the bottom, with the fallout being the death of the internet (for better or worse)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

With understanding LLM, I started to understand some people and their "reasoning" better. That's how they work.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

The difference is that you can actually download this model and run it on your own hardware (if you have sufficient hardware). In that case it won't be sending any data to China. These models are still useful tools. As long as you're not interested in particular parts of Chinese history of course ;p

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

And now people exchange one American Junk-spitting Spyware for a Chinese junk-spitting spyware.

LLMs aren't spyware, they're graphs that organize large bodies of data for quick and user-friendly retrieval. The Wikipedia schema accomplishes a similar, abet more primitive, role. There's nothing wrong with the fundamentals of the technology, just the applications that Westoids doggedly insist it be used for.

If you no longer need to boil down half a Great Lake to create the next iteration of Shrimp Jesus, that's good whether or not you think Meta should be dedicating millions of hours of compute to this mind-eroding activity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think maybe it's naive to think that if the cost goes down, shrimp jesus won't just be in higher demand. Shrimp jesus has no market cap, bullshit has no market cap. If you make it more efficient to flood cyberspace with bullshit, cyberspace will just be flooded with more bullshit. Those great lakes will still boil, don't worry.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

It is open source, so it should be audited and if there are back doors they can be plugged in a fork

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